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need some advice on ritalin...
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#1 Posted : Friday, June 18, 2010 2:58:00 PM(UTC)
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My boy is now 6 and in grade 1. He has concentration problems. We had him anylised by a psiciatrist and she suggest he go on a trial period of ritalin. I have heard so many bad things about this drug. Does anyone have experience with this - good or bad? Must I put him on it or rather leave it? I don't want to do my child more harm than good.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:19:57 AM(UTC)
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Ritalin is not good and has bad long term effects.My son was put on Ritalin and became extremely moody when "he came down"Read up on the effects of Ritalin.Try a herbal supplement for concentration rather .Personally i think teachers are just lazy and would rather the students sat like zombies in the class.Concentration loss is usually caused by an unbalanced PH level in the body.There used to be a supplement called kids complete which works wonders and is natural
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:42:58 AM(UTC)
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Try eye-Q - it also works wonders...

Ritalin is a dangerous, sometimes fatal drug. Stay away from it if you love your child.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:35:33 PM(UTC)
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I have a son in Grade 1 who is on a small dose of Ritalin daily. The results have been amazing and he is thriving in the classroom and at home. I would suggest trying it for yourself and making your own decision. It does not always work for every child - my daughter became very emotional, couldn't sleep and lost weight so we stopped ritalin in her case. Concerta is a very good alternative too. The best person to speak to would be a paediatric neurologist. Ritalin is labelled by so many people as a "bad" drug but it definately has its place.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:40:07 PM(UTC)
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Teachers are not generally lazy and if a recommendation came from a teacher it would be because she has the childs best interests at heart. Teachers do no want to have a class of zombies. If a child cannot concentrate and take in information they need intervention of some kind to assist them in not falling behind in their school work. Conditions such as ADD & ADHD are real and can be treated. If your child had an illness such as diabetes you would not hesitate to medicate, so think of concentration issues in the same light.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:15:28 PM(UTC)
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Can the person who stated that Ritalin is dangerous and fatal please back up that statement with some facts?
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#9 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:35:50 PM(UTC)
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The reason my 7 year old is on Ritalin is because I do love him and it is brilliant to see him achieve success.
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#10 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 12:40:16 PM(UTC)
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Unfortunately I've only ever heard bad things about Ritalin. Maybe get a few opinions? Hope it all works out!
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#11 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 4:35:27 PM(UTC)
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Ritalin has good and bad effects on a child therefore I suggest you read up on both and make a constructive decision that will be in the best interest of your child.
Goodluck!
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#12 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 11:06:37 AM(UTC)
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My 8 yr old was just diagnosed with ADD, which we have been suspecting for quite some time. His therapist has decided to start-off without ritalin and see whether we can improve his condition without it, but the possibility of him having to take it, is still there. i have no problem with this, as I have done my homework on it, asked other parents and feel that if it can improve his concentration, I have to consider it. Will keep you updated on how it goes.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:19:32 PM(UTC)
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My son also had concentration problems and his teacher suggested Ritalin. A Cape Town OT named Jenine Bence examined my child and mentioned that he was always in a state of "fight or flight", in other words he couldn't focus because all of his senses were constantly on alert and attracted his attention (sounds, movement, smells etc.) which affected everything he did.

Anyway, Ms Bence gave us the following :

1. A special soft bristled brush was given, whcih we had to use every morning before school and just before bedtime. We had to brush his arms, legs, back and chest quite vigorously for about 1 min each area. What this did was stimulate the skin over his entire body, which in turn made the brain give precedence of this sensation over any other stimuli. We did this daily for about a year. We were quite taken aback when she suggested this, but it makes complete sense when you actually think about how the body works and the brain processes information.

2. A small duvet that had stones/crystals sewn into it. He slept under this every night, and the weight of the stones (and their shape) also served in a similar way to above by pressing down against his body/skin.

3. For school he had an inflatable cushion covered in small knobbly things to sit on in class and a small pice of rubber tubing to chew on.

Believe it or not, but the results from the above can only be described as amazing. His attention span and concentration has improved radically and he regularly scores over 80% in most, if not all, school tests. the BIG bonus, of course, is that he is NOT on any medication.

As he's grown older he has improved naturally and is no longer so easily distracted by his surroundings.

Hope this is helpful. I may be a little off in how the things work etc., but we were prepared to look at any alternative too medication.

Jenine Bence lives in the Kommetjie/Fish Hoek area and her number is : 021 783 3051

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After I posted @ 05 August 2010 12:19:32 PM, I quickly googled the techniques described.

The brushing etc. is known as The Wilbarger Technique, and also includes compressing the joints after the brushing (I'd forgotten about that).

Anyway, a person diagnosed with ADD or ADHD, due to their difficulty paying attention, may in fact have an immature nervous system causing SENSORY INTEGRATION DYSFUNCTION. This makes it difficult for him/her to filter out nonessential information, background noises or visual distraction and focus on what is essential.

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Teachers are not generally lazy and if a recommendation came from a teacher it would be because she has the childs best interests at heart. Teachers do no want to have a class of zombies. If a child cannot concentrate and take in information they need intervention of some kind to assist them in not falling behind in their school work. Conditions such as ADD & ADHD are real and can be treated. If your child had an illness such as diabetes you would not hesitate to medicate, so think of concentration issues in the same light.


I beg your pardon?

Teachers are not (generally) lazy?

What planet are you from?

How come every second child nowadays is labelled as ADD or ADHD - but 30 or 40 years ago, our CURRENT captains of industry who were almost to a man 'difficult' pupils, weren't?

It's because teachers are lazy and want compliant, unquestioning children in the class, that's why. Bright, questioning children are an irritation, always asking questions and challenging the teacher - so the teacher classifies them as ADD/ADHD, recommends they get zombified with Ritalin, and that's that.

Very few teachers out there actually know how to, or want to, do their jobs properly.
Ritalin is “Kiddie Cocaine”
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:30:25 PM(UTC)
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“Ritalin” is just a common name for what the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) classifies as a Schedule II narcotic. If that doesn’t mean anything to you, it’s in the same family as cocaine, morphine and amphetamines which are abused by children for their stimulating effects.

See these links for some information:
Psychiatrists pushing drugs to children

Sudden death

Matthew Smith

There are THOUSANDS of other links to the dangers of Ritalin. Try Googling the subject.

Ritalin kills.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:20:24 PM(UTC)
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My son who is in Grade 1 this year was diagnosed with ADHD -he was really struggling at school. His IQ is above average. He was prescribed Ritalin after seeing a child educational pschycologist. I was very upset but I knew I needed to do something as my sons self esteem was affected negatively. For the last 5 months my son has been on it and what a different child he has become academically. It was the correct decision for him and I do not regret it as he doesn’t complain he is stupid anymore and his self esteem has done a 360 degree.
It is a very overwhelming decision to start ones child on Ritalin but each child is different and responds differently .
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 2:13:44 PM(UTC)
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my son is 8 years old, and in grade 2. he is on a trial period of 3 months on ritalin. He is on a low dosage, and slow release. He is a highly intelligent child, but has concentration problems, as the little things bore him! He does not take ritalin on week-ends, and he is doing very very well. I would also rather refer to a specialist regarding this, and each child differs. NO_ONE can tell you its poison etc. please. we all love our kids and want the best for them. The only effect it has on my son, is that his iron is a little low at the moment, but he takes Ferimed as a supplement. Do what is best for your child, and dont let other people influence your choices.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:57:31 PM(UTC)
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Sorry, but when the list of side-effects of a medication include the line "occasional sudden death" then the substance is NOT safe.

Read the links posted above, particularly the one to Matthew Smith. If you care about your child, you won't put them on Ritalin.
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#21 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:47:26 PM(UTC)
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Ritalin is not good.My son said it was like having a hangover when you come down....Statistic are that alot of Ritalin users become addicts of other drugs later in life.Also look at the side effects to the body caused by Ritalin.I would rather go for something natural
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#22 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:33:36 PM(UTC)
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When my son started at formal school, his teachers complained that he was disruptive and they thought he should be on Ritalin. My ex-wife agreed with them, but I was completely and utterly unhappy with their conclusion.

The way I saw it, a child who was ADD/ADHD would have a problem concentrating on EVERYTHING, not just on their schoolwork. He didn't have a problem concentrating on things that were interesting or challenging - in fact, I NEVER experienced him as having a problem concentrating, no more than any OTHER child his age anyway. And his grasp of complex subjects, even at age 5 or 6, was astounding - he never accepted "because I say so" as an answer, he always wanted to know the REAL reason.

However, due to the way things used to work before the new Children's Act, and my ex-wife's spiteful relocation to the Cape to keep my son and I apart, I had very little influence/jurisdiction over what happened to my son - and his mother started administering Ritalin, knowing FULL WELL that I objected. Obviously, because my son and I are so close and always have been, he told me all about this administration of medication - but because she had 'custody', and the support of various "experts" (mostly just teachers), and a compliant G.P. to boot, I could do nothing about it.
I continued to object, though, and kept requesting that he be PROPERLY evaluated as to the suitability of this dangerous and sometimes fatal drug.

To make matters worse, knowing that I was vehemently opposed to Ritalin, she would administer the drug religiously while he was at school, but when he flew up to spend holidays with me, she would just not give him the Ritalin - so the poor tyke literally went 'cold-turkey' every time he came to visit. The withdrawal symptoms of Ritalin, incidentally, are comparable to those for cocaine... So the first week or two here he'd be battling withdrawal symptoms, and then, when he was finally settling down, the holiday would be over and he had to go back to the Cape and she would start administering this dangerous drug again. To me, that was just plainly and simply child-abuse - but in those days we fathers had very little chance of gettting the courts to agree with us, no matter HOW badly our children were affected.

Eventually, after he'd changed schools a couple of times, my ex-wife relented and had my son evaluated. Of course, I had to pay. But part of the evaluation was a standard I.Q. test.
I'll never forget the day I heard the results - I was travelling to work, about 06h30 in the morning, and my ex-wife phoned and said something to the effect of "We need to talk - I've had X tested and we have a problem". I went ice-cold.
Her next words answered ALL the questions I'd asked her over the previous years - "His I.Q. is off the normal scale for children his age. Apparently he's just bored at school".
And that was that - to this day, she has never admitted that she administered Ritalin wrongly, and she refuses to discuss the matter.

He was then enrolled in an exceptional school - one of the 'International Schools", a private school that offers an international standard education - and since then he hasn't looked back. He's won several Gold Medals in the Maths Olympiads, competing in age groups higher than his own, he's received awards at Science Fairs and expositions, and he's excelled in several other areas such as art, drama, languages, and debating. All areas in which, under the influence of Ritalin, he battled to keep up.

The first full year he was off Ritalin, in fact, he managed to complete two academic years in one - and passed with distinction!

Sadly, administration of Ritalin by his mother, against my express wishes and to his severe detriment, has left him with a couple of problems - like any addict, he occasionally craves the 'effect' the Ritalin gave him, and on occasion has even requested his mother to procure Ritalin for him, particularly when he's feeling stressed. This, against all reason and logic, she does. Which only means that he has to wean himself off the Ritalin AGAIN later. This cycle has repeated itself for the last few years, but thankfully he will be coming to live with me permanently from the end of this year - and then, for the first time, I will finally be able to protect him against this irresponsible and dangerous tendency on the part of his mother. Note well that she is not alone in her abuse of my son - she has been aided and abetted in her abuse of my son by the very people who should have protected him - the teachers, the school psychologists, and even the legal profession.

I've done extensive research on the subject - and I freely admit that there are certain cases in which Ritalin is the most effective and suitable drug for that particular child. But those cases comprise, according to many experts on the subject, a FRACTION OF A PERCENT of all the children currently receiving Ritalin for supposed ADD/ADHD. Nowadays, it is common for at LEAST 10% (sometimes even three times that percentage) of all children in any class/standard/grade to be classified as, and be receiving Ritalin for, ADD/ADHD.

Be that as it may, I knew right from the start that my son was not ADD/ADHD, and that Ritalin was not the right thing for him. But the teachers he encountered, instead of looking at his obvious intelligence and the quality of the questions he asked, saw only an irritation and inconvenience when he asked "But WHY?" - and his mother listened to them, rather than to the professionals I eventually convinced her to consult. It has taken me over a decade to reach the position where my son now recognises that the Ritalin is bad for him, and that his answer lies in academic stimulation and hard work - but he will always crave the effect he experienced on Ritalin.
Tell me this honestly: What kind of adult addicts their OWN CHILD to a dangerous drug like Ritalin, without first having every possible test done, consulting the top experts in that field, familiarising themselves with the possible side-effects and dangers of Ritalin, and trying ALL the alternatives?

Ritalin may very well be the right thing for your child. I don't presume to tell you that it isn't. But given the list of side-effects, and the fact that death can and does result as a side-effect of Ritalin, I would venture to suggest that you seek at least a second opinion on the matter, specifically and preferably from a psychiatrist who is vehemently opposed to the wholesale administration of such a potentially lethal drug to non-consenting and uninformed children. And don't allow yourself to be bullied into asking your G.P. for Ritalin by teachers whose only motivation is a pay-cheque. Always, always, always do what is best for your child - and if you're in doubt, find yourself an expert who really knows what they're doing. A General Practitioner and/or a schoolteacher don't come anywhere CLOSE to that description.
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:10:33 PM(UTC)
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Ritalin has its place but it is over-prescribed. It should be a last resort.
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