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Incorrect spending of child maintenance
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#23 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 3:28:43 PM(UTC)
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I would just like to receive maintnance. Divorce order ignored and the new happy family just receives all the benefits while the "old family" suffers and goes without.
I beleive that you give to the children what is due, it is very important to receive a monthly statement as to how the maintenance is being spent (for the child/children) and not on items for mom/dad. This often happens. The primary caregive is accountable in terms of the welfare of the child/chilren
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#24 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 3:50:15 PM(UTC)
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Please dont pay the mother in cash, that is just a waste of hard earned money. Pay the service provider(s) yourself, at least then you are sure it goes towards what it is meant for.

I am taking care of my children, everything including medical fund, school fee, transporting etc. etc. The father is not interested in seeing either of the two children, as he always has a way of getting around a possible visit. However, I'm getting maintenance and extra for taking care of a special needs child. Married again, but we are struggling to keep going. I dont milk the cow, therefore I have the convenience of asking if anything more is needed (which I rarely do).

Dont have any respect for a divorced parent (mother or father) that milks the cow as much as possible, that is disgusting.
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#25 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 3:56:40 PM(UTC)
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Kind of sad reading all of these - My parents divorced early on and the one thing that still stings today is the way my parents constantly fought over money - the one had and the other didnt! My ex-husband ran away to the UK after I left him. He earns pounds enough to have another kid and buy a house but has only paid R3000 for his daughter in the last 8 months! I cover 95% of all her expenses - and I do it gladly because she is mine! Also because I believe that divine comeback is better than any vengence I coult ever plot! So my message - please consider how much it hurts the kids.
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#10 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 5:37:31 PM(UTC)
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I think he should take the children and look after them then he doesnt have to pay maintenance and he can see how much it costs to bring up children!


Now your comment was less than pointless, in fact useless and smacks of ignorance. If I could have my daughter living with me I would take her today. It's not as expensive as you make it out to be in fact, it's as EXPENSIVE AS YOU MAKE ITShame on you

Some parents out of spite do not take into account what is REALISTIC...they hit their ex's with demands/bills that even if they were still married, they could not afford and would never do. It's never in the childs interest, only the need to feed their spite.

In short, you provide the BEST you CAN AFFORD because if you over extend yourself, the WHOLE family will suffer including the child in the end so, grow up.
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#26 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:00:50 PM(UTC)
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You have a legal right to ask your ex for invoices, etc at the end of the month showing where money was spent and how. I've kept all 'evidence of spending' not only to be able to set my ex hubby's mind to rest that the money is being spent correctly, but also to show that the R1700 a month he's paying out of a salary of R35k (plus benefits) is very much inadequate. Yes, I work but earn only a fifth of what he does and carry the bulk of our daughter's expenses. Then he still has the audacity to voice his displeasure at me not housing her in a 'security complex'.

Like the other guest said... it's not a man or woman thing - it's a mean person thing.
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#28 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2010 6:48:54 PM(UTC)
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What may alimony be used for?
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:02:49 AM(UTC)
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Hi All, Just some advice here. I am married to a man who has 2 daughters from his previous marriage. We do not have children. He pays for everything for the kids, schooling, medical, pocket money, cell phones etc. His ex does not contribute a cent. His eldest daughter is 2nd year University and I bought her a car. We pay for petrol and services of the car, university books and tuition. So for the eldest he stopped paying maintenance. He still pays maintenance for their youngest daughter and covers everything else for her cost wise including school uniforms. He also takes the children on holidays and plays a very active part in their upbringing. With all of this I keep down a good job and now end up paying and supporting his ex, because if my husband runs short of funds I have to pay to cover costs. I feel that this is very unfair towards me, but I need to also support my husband. I asked his ex if she could at least cover the petrol for the eldest daughter and she just said no. His ex is working and does not contribute a cent towards her children. Over and above the maintenance my husband also still pays towards a bond for her and her husband. With the current economic climate things are quite tough on us and we just cannot keep up anymore. My husband hates confrontation and will never take the matter up with her or the courts. I mean I even asked his eldest daughter to get a job over holidays and she just does not want to (infuence from the mother). Please can someone advise me what to do????
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#31 Posted : Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:32:01 PM(UTC)
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Your Hubby needs to face the fact he cannot go on like this, he either stands up to his ex or he will lose.
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#32 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:01:19 PM(UTC)
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pay service providers directly. no money must go to her account.
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#33 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:18:00 PM(UTC)
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Incredible ...... listen to all these "great" fathers looking for ANYway out of paying support or ANY way to frustrate the mother.

Don't any of you guys really CARE about your children, or is it all still about HER ?

To coin a phrase from another guest father "...she wasn't a bitch when you slept with her...."
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:15:11 PM(UTC)
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Guest wrote:
Hi All, Just some advice here. I am married to a man who has 2 daughters from his previous marriage. We do not have children. He pays for everything for the kids, schooling, medical, pocket money, cell phones etc. His ex does not contribute a cent. His eldest daughter is 2nd year University and I bought her a car. We pay for petrol and services of the car, university books and tuition. So for the eldest he stopped paying maintenance. He still pays maintenance for their youngest daughter and covers everything else for her cost wise including school uniforms. He also takes the children on holidays and plays a very active part in their upbringing. With all of this I keep down a good job and now end up paying and supporting his ex, because if my husband runs short of funds I have to pay to cover costs. I feel that this is very unfair towards me, but I need to also support my husband. I asked his ex if she could at least cover the petrol for the eldest daughter and she just said no. His ex is working and does not contribute a cent towards her children. Over and above the maintenance my husband also still pays towards a bond for her and her husband. With the current economic climate things are quite tough on us and we just cannot keep up anymore. My husband hates confrontation and will never take the matter up with her or the courts. I mean I even asked his eldest daughter to get a job over holidays and she just does not want to (infuence from the mother). Please can someone advise me what to do????


First off you have the right to independently negotiate an agreement between your husband’s eldest daughter and the two off you. You can agree to pay for some or all of the major expenses and she must pay for things like petrol etc. We all had to pay our way by getting an extra job or 3 when we went to varsity, this has not changed. Sit down together in a calm neutral environment or with an independent facilitator / mediator to work out a win / win situation for all three of you.
With regards to your husband’s ex?
1. Why if she has a husband are you paying the bond?
2. You are obliged to share the expenses for the youngest child.
3. Determine what the cost is to maintain the child. Maintenance is a very simple mathematical equation what does daddy earns, what does mommy earn add the 2 together and then get an average.
Then you determine the gross monthly cost per child.
You are then both jointly and severable liable to pay half or a pro rata percentage if one parent earns more than the other.
Maintenance is not about keeping the other parent in the lap of luxury – it is about BOTH parents meeting and if possible exceeding their joint and separate responsibilities for the children.
If the ex doesn’t like it, go to the maintenance court for relief. You have a legal right to have sight of actual cost to maintain the child. You can ask the court to demand original documentation from his ex.
Contact Fathers 4 Justice for additional help or support on www.f4j.co.za.
All the best
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#34 Posted : Monday, January 03, 2011 4:48:31 PM(UTC)
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Hi,
Each situation is as unique as the people "making up" the situation.
My ex pays R840.00 per child, and then 50:50 for school fees and afterschool fees.
According to our settlement he is supposed to pay 50:50 of all stationary, uniforms, school fees & clothing, plus pay their medical aid & 50:50 of all expenses not covered by the medical aid.

As far as I'm aware the R840 is then his portion towards rent, groceries & water & lights, is that correct?
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:33:08 AM(UTC)
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Sounds like a really tough situation. The only way out that I can see is to 1) start paying all of the expenses that you are responsible for directly to the service providers e.g. the school and 2) come clean with your daughter's school. If they have not been receiving their money all this time they will be very happy to come to an arrangement with the "responsible" parent because they have most likely been writing and calling your ex to try and settle the outstanding amount. Explain your version of events and see whether you can come up with a plan to pay off the R10000 over time -and then deduct this amount from the maintenance that is paid over to your ex.


Good plan but don't deduct this amount from your regular maintenance - you may not reduce maintenance without a revised court order. If you do chances are good you will have the sheriff at you gate with a domestic violence order for financial abuse. And believe me that you don't want!
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#27 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:50:15 PM(UTC)
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Guest wrote:
You have a legal right to ask your ex for invoices, etc at the end of the month showing where money was spent and how. I've kept all 'evidence of spending' not only to be able to set my ex hubby's mind to rest that the money is being spent correctly, but also to show that the R1700 a month he's paying out of a salary of R35k (plus benefits) is very much inadequate. Yes, I work but earn only a fifth of what he does and carry the bulk of our daughter's expenses. Then he still has the audacity to voice his displeasure at me not housing her in a 'security complex'.

Like the other guest said... it's not a man or woman thing - it's a mean person thing.
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