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Putting my Daughter to Sleep (2Years)
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#1 Posted : Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:41:19 AM(UTC)
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Morning

I have been reading these forums for about a month or so and today I must ask for some advice please.

I am a daddy of a 2year old. Since she has been born the only way I could put her to sleep is by walking with her head in my arms and sissing her for about 30min. This has in time become a problem for myself and my wife, because this is the only way she wants to go and sleep now.

She cant "switch off" by her self (only if she is very tired). I cant do this anymore as sh is getting heavier and this can not be good for her either. Please mommies and experts , please assist me with some good advice of what I would be able to do.

She sleeps in a Cot in our room and drinks about 1x bottle at night.

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Desperate Daddy.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:31:46 AM(UTC)
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Hi There.
I have 2 boys, 5 and 3, and they share a room. I had the same problem when they were that old. This is only my opinion in what you should do. Firstly make sure that the room has a "warm feeling" to it. What i did, is i boaght a lava lamp (they cost not more than R100) and put a little shelf high up so she cannot reach her, cause the lamp does get hot. Mount it in a position that she would be able to see it while laying down, and tell her to watch the bubbles going up and falling down. This should destract her, and calm her. Sit next to her cot, gently stroking her hair, and watch the bubbles with her, assure her that you are there, and you are not going anywhere. Also assure her that you love her and will not leave her. Sit next to her till she falls asleep. Then every night, move a bit further away from her, but still assure her you are there for her. I hope this work, and if it does, you should really start thinking of moving her to her own room if you have the space. First with her cot, and then eventually a bed. It is difficult, i know, but hang in there. It will all work out in the end.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:14:38 PM(UTC)
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I will give it a try. We are moving into a new house next moth. She and little sis (3moths) will each have their own rooms.

I have learned with her, and we are not making the same mistake with our new born. Will let you know how it goes.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:17:51 PM(UTC)
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Hi there -- You are so not alone - sleep is a huge issue for parents. That's why we have a whole section on Parent24 for Sleep problems and solutions. Whatever you do, you and her mom must be in agreement, or otherwise it is doomed to fail. Good luck, do let us know how it works out for you.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:24:29 PM(UTC)
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Definatly agree on one thing posted, you and you're wife have to come up with a plan and both stick to it.

For me it was a case of tough love, leave the child to fall asleep in her cot alone. Yes she will scream and it will be hard but it does get better. It usually takes a week for them to get into the habit and in my experience after that it was very easy to get my children to sleep because they got used to the routine .

Both my children have (both boys 7 and 6) have alwasy had strick bed times and allways go to bed with out fuss.

I have friends who let their children sleep with them and didnt enforce any routine, they strugle every night and sometimes the children are awake till 2am
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#6 Posted : Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:55:39 PM(UTC)
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I have one thing to say... Sleep Therapist! We did not sleep for 2 years, we employed a sleep therapist who taught us a routine with our son and our lives changed. It was the best R2000 we ever spent. A simple but strict routine, not cruel and it worked. We had the WORST sleeper in the world - at least an hour every night to go down and he would wake up screaming about 5-8 times a night, eventually land up in our bed because we were desperate for sleep (not that he slept there either) and then would wake up at 5am for the day. It was diabolical. He is still a little defiant at times, but we stick to your guns and he (and we) enjoy a full nights sleep till 6am or 7am - bliss, I am telling you!!
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#7 Posted : Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:38:12 PM(UTC)
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Guest wrote:
I have one thing to say... Sleep Therapist! We did not sleep for 2 years, we employed a sleep therapist who taught us a routine with our son and our lives changed. It was the best R2000 we ever spent. A simple but strict routine, not cruel and it worked. We had the WORST sleeper in the world - at least an hour every night to go down and he would wake up screaming about 5-8 times a night, eventually land up in our bed because we were desperate for sleep (not that he slept there either) and then would wake up at 5am for the day. It was diabolical. He is still a little defiant at times, but we stick to your guns and he (and we) enjoy a full nights sleep till 6am or 7am - bliss, I am telling you!!


Wow, that sounds like torture! Thanks for posting this, at least we know there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
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#8 Posted : Friday, May 14, 2010 12:17:23 PM(UTC)
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To be honest the main mistake you are doing is letting the 2 year old sleep in the same room as you. I suggest you start making the start of putting her in her own room and gradually do it.
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#9 Posted : Friday, May 14, 2010 3:39:22 PM(UTC)
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It's not a 'mistake' to have your child sleep in the same room as yourself - in fact, it's a 'johnny-come-lately' Westernised concept that children should sleep in a separate room to the parents. Look at all the cultures worldwide that routinely have a communal sleeping area custom - and tell me, for instance, that the Oriental culture is inferior to the South African one. Oh, and do it without laughing at your own ridiculous assertion...
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#10 Posted : Friday, May 14, 2010 4:41:02 PM(UTC)
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I got a sleep therapist in - who showed us what to do - and I'm afraid it was not pleasant to hear my child cry - but I have to admit, it DID work. And thats tough love.

Gently go through the bedtime routine.
Put child to bed and kiss goodnight.
Leave the room.
Child will get up/cry for you.
Leave child to cry for 2 mins (1min for each year of the childs age)
Go in and settle child, without switching on lights or talking to her (do NOT engage in bartering)
Leave the room.
Child will get up/cry for you.
Leave child now for 4 mins (double the last time)
Go in and settle child without lights or talking.
Repeat this, always extending the amount of time between going in and settling the child.
Repeat this for AT LEAST 5 nights - both daddy and mommy must do this, take turns each night - so not one parent is seen as the ally.

Many will think this as harsh - after 3 years of no sleep, I eventually resorted to this method, and havn't looked back!
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:41:05 PM(UTC)
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Sleep therapy is a way of systematically terrifying your child until they fall asleep, exhausted with a primal fear that if they're not quiet they'll be eaten alive during the night. Repeat night after night. Nice! Sure, they figure out after awhile that Daddy and Mommy are still around in the morning when the sun comes up and they haven't in fact been eaten while it was dark and they were left all alone. But at what cost, and why resort to putting them through that ordeal - doesn't sit well with me at all. I prefer to protect my child, not terrify them repeatedly.
Infants are demanding but quite adaptable. You need to find a routine that works for you, and work towards it. You'll find you don't have to force it on them, but over time with a little coaxing, lots of patience, they'll adapt. It shouldn't be a case of 'no sleep' though, that's just not going to work for you. Give a little, and require a little. That way you just working towards what you need, and they keep getting the love they need.
And don't get me started on this rubbish that infants must sleep alone, in their own room. That's a recent, westernised idea that's only popular because it lets parents be selfish:- TV, blackberries, laptops, whatever. There'll be plenty of time when your kids will be alone, why not enjoy the time you have with them, while you can.
Don't listen to the masses. :) Good luck.
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