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need some advice on ritalin...
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:00:41 PM(UTC)
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Hi my name is mala ,i am a parent of a grade 8 child,who has adhd and is on the ritalin.I tried her without the ritalin for the first term of school and that did not workout very well which resulted her in failing 3 major subjects. I got her back on it and the feedback of one of the teacher is that she is doing better now.I also did research and know that there is more negative than postive on the ritalin. I also experince the same situation when she was in grade 1 , the teacher want to fail her towards the ending of the year, which i agreed to ,because she went early to school. I then put back on the ritalin. She then passed grade 1 doing very well. At first i did not tell the teacher bescause i wanted to see the teacher notice any change which she did and the teacher thinking that i spoke to my child, which then i told the teacher what i did and she told me that what a change in my child there was. My point is that many teachers do not know about the ritalin and adhd, add . Which result in some of the children not coping in school or some parents not getting to why their child is not doing well in school . I think that if the principal of schools have their pupils assess then he nor she will know why a pupil is not doing well in school. I am not sayiny that every child has this problem, but by doing this the shool grades will pick up and the child will get the correct help which may be anyone of many different problems eg. lack of money , not having a proper breakfast due to being poor, lack of parents interest, coming from a abusive home,. Maybe if teachers know the problem then they will have better results and a happier class which result in the school and pupil getting good results.
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:59:22 AM(UTC)
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So you're saying, as long as the school grades are fine, don't worry about the side-effects of Ritalin?
Which side-effects include death?

As for teachers not knowing about Ritalin - PUH-LEEEZE! They're the FIRST ones to ever suggest it - they're lazy, overpaid, non-vocational and incompetent individuals who cannot handle intelligent questioning children. They prefer their children drugged and compliant - preferably as close to comatose as is legal.

It beggars belief that you will put your child's grades before their health and even life. And you call yourself a parent?

Why not go straight to the 'source' and give your child cocaine? The chemical effects are the same - it's only the source and legality that differ.
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#26 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:31:16 PM(UTC)
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So you're saying, as long as the school grades are fine, don't worry about the side-effects of Ritalin?
Which side-effects include death?

As for teachers not knowing about Ritalin - PUH-LEEEZE! They're the FIRST ones to ever suggest it - they're lazy, overpaid, non-vocational and incompetent individuals who cannot handle intelligent questioning children. They prefer their children drugged and compliant - preferably as close to comatose as is legal.

It beggars belief that you will put your child's grades before their health and even life. And you call yourself a parent?

Why not go straight to the 'source' and give your child cocaine? The chemical effects are the same - it's only the source and legality that differ.


So since you badmouth teachers I assume you homeschool your child? Oh wait, I doubt it...

Your argument is flawed. So I take it if your child is sick you wouldn't take the child to the doctor? Because lets face it all medication has some type of harmful chemical in there. I mean there is alcohol in there too! Damn, your kid is going to be alcoholic! How dare you, bad parent you are!

So then your next argument will state: Well medication is measured in non harmfull quantities. But then again Ritalin is too? You know the only reason why death would occur is the over abuse of it. A parent giving to much at a time. But oh wait! That happens with any kind of medicine. Didn't you know?

Oh and by the way, most if not all drugs are made from the medication you take weekly if not daily. Normal medication like disprin. So you are now classed as a druggy not so?

The point im trying to make is if a parent blinds themself to the fact that their kid has a problem, is a bad parent. Wanting to help your child doesn't equal it.
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:44:54 PM(UTC)
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So, it seems, you choose to ignore the negative side-effects of Ritalin?

See Death from Ritalin: just for starters.

Disprin (IF you happen to take such things) doesn't come with a list of side-effects that ends with "Occasionally, death".

There are many alternatives to Kiddy-Cocaine (Ritalin) - such as exercise and diet, as well as herbal remedies. Why would you choose the chemical route rather than a natural one? Oh, for the quick and easy results... THAT explains it.

And yes, my youngest child is actually homeschooled - and also attends additional playgroups and interest groups, we exercise together as a family, and we discuss things in an adult, balanced fashion, and make joint decisions. The eldest finishes school this year - at an exclusive private school that follows an international curriculum.
How many of THOSE boxes can YOU tick?

No wait - you believe in chemical remedies for perceived problems (ADD/ADHD is NOT a real medical condition), you believe that the teachers (who are currently striking and intimidating others) are actually vocationally drawn to the profession, and your child is also obviously in a public school of sorts - since you're defending the system.

Nice one!

I repeat:
So you're saying, as long as the school grades are fine, don't worry about the side-effects of Ritalin?
Which side-effects include death?
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:01:54 PM(UTC)
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Hi,

i have a nephew (Grade 3) who is having emense difficulty at school. he seems to have a mental-block towards certain tasks which are carried out in the classroom.his work is incomplete and continuosly tells the teacher that "he doesn't know what to do".

his teacher has recommended ritilin - which im not entirely happy about, but i would like to speak to a professional regarding this matter... someone who will also give me alternatives to ritilin, so that i can make an educated decision regarding this very important matter... im not clued up about this and i dnt want to make the incorrect decision coz this could affect my nephew severly

does anyone know of a child phsycologist in the KZN-Durban/Pietermaritburg area whom they can recommend to me.

qny assistnce in this matter would be appreciated.
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#28 Posted : Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:00:05 AM(UTC)
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Guest wrote:
So, it seems, you choose to ignore the negative side-effects of Ritalin?

See Death from Ritalin: just for starters.

Disprin (IF you happen to take such things) doesn't come with a list of side-effects that ends with "Occasionally, death".

There are many alternatives to Kiddy-Cocaine (Ritalin) - such as exercise and diet, as well as herbal remedies. Why would you choose the chemical route rather than a natural one? Oh, for the quick and easy results... THAT explains it.

And yes, my youngest child is actually homeschooled - and also attends additional playgroups and interest groups, we exercise together as a family, and we discuss things in an adult, balanced fashion, and make joint decisions. The eldest finishes school this year - at an exclusive private school that follows an international curriculum.
How many of THOSE boxes can YOU tick?

No wait - you believe in chemical remedies for perceived problems (ADD/ADHD is NOT a real medical condition), you believe that the teachers (who are currently striking and intimidating others) are actually vocationally drawn to the profession, and your child is also obviously in a public school of sorts - since you're defending the system.

Nice one!

I repeat:
So you're saying, as long as the school grades are fine, don't worry about the side-effects of Ritalin?
Which side-effects include death?


Crazy people out there (including yourself) bringing children into this world scares me more.
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#30 Posted : Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:55:17 AM(UTC)
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That is the same thing that happened to my grade one child last year. The teacher "diagnosed" him with ADHD and told us already in June that he would be held back. We spoke to doctor and triend out Ritalin for a month what a horror - child was like a zombie. Took him off and tried concerta - even worse did it for two weeks and stoped. To our horror when books came home at end of year it became apparent that the teacher "wrote" him off and there was hardly any work in his books for the last five months - just neative comments - "too slow" , " cannot comprehend " . If the teacher is so negative how is the child going to cope. My child was very unhappy at the school and I am talking former model C school. We moved him to a remedial school and he is doing fantastic WITHOUT any medication. Full scores on dictation, got gold medals at eistedford and a diploma or double gold for Art eistedford and the only grade one in his school to get such a high award for art the other diplomas were all grades 5 & 6. Noew tell me where the problem lies - with the teacher or the child?
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#31 Posted : Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:09:10 PM(UTC)
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You are not well, guest.

Answer the question - if the side-effects of something include sudden death, are you happy to give it to your child?

If you are, you're not fit to be a parent. You're sick!
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#32 Posted : Friday, November 12, 2010 10:27:45 AM(UTC)
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To you pro-ritalin "people" out there:

Ritalin and Cocaine, Morphine, and other Amphetamines are all in the same class - they are dangerous drugs, which are often abused for the effects they have.
If you are NOT prepared to give your child Cocaine, Morphine, or any other Amphetamine, then why are you prepared to give your child Ritalin?
After all, Cocaine, Morphine, and the rest ALSO have medicinal uses.

What is the difference?
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#33 Posted : Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:00:08 PM(UTC)
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lalies wrote:
My boy is now 6 and in grade 1. He has concentration problems. We had him anylised by a psiciatrist and she suggest he go on a trial period of ritalin. I have heard so many bad things about this drug. Does anyone have experience with this - good or bad? Must I put him on it or rather leave it? I don't want to do my child more harm than good.


I Am a mother of 3 grown up children
The school suggested my one son went onto ritalin. I refused.
Instead I injected him with "Sport" Sent him to soccer and eventually he became a long distance runner winning many awards including his province school colours.
He was sportsman of the year in matric and is today a qualified chartered accountant earning big bucks and a ritalin has never passed his lips.

Children need to get rid of their pent up energy and any child who plays sport will sleep better and consentrate better..
I do know that some children are given ritalin because they are hyperactive and others simply because they dont concentrate

All I know is the above worked for my son "The proof is in the pudding"
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:57:33 AM(UTC)
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I am on Concerta, which is just as 'bad'
It Changed my Life.

I am 18 and have just finished Matric, I Wouldn't have been here without it.
I'm bright and flew through primary school and started to struggle in my final two years, teachers noticed and so did my parents.
My parents didn't believe in someone being changed due to medication but after struggling through high school having a very low self esteem, constinitly being in trouble due to not remembering or doodling and generally strugglng with all things without understanding why and always being emotionaly insucure- i just did'nt know why other kids were doing so well and i could't, even though i was more capable.

I suffered a complete mental and emotional breakdown due to not being able to keep up in febuary and subsiquintly failed my first term after lots of thereapy and parental back-up i was put on concerta, yes withdrawl is difficult and it makes me sick often, but to be able to do the things that i now can is incredible. the benifts far out way the cons.

I try to take my meds as little as possible but i can't explain how much of a life changer this was for me and yes i play sport, go to gym amd live healthy but the best way to explain it to someone (in my case) is that i was always putting in 110% and getting out very litte, now what i put in is what i get out.
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#35 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:16:57 AM(UTC)
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Something that has also helped me very much is fish oils, I-Que is very expensive and works the best(I've tried them) but the fish oil tablets from dischem,clicks ect. are just as good. I take Three - Four every day and it has made a diffrence maybe start with that while deciding, i know alot of ADHD children struggle with memory aswell, which this helps with. On days were i'm not on Concerta i'm quiet calm and less jumpy which is helpfull.
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#36 Posted : Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:09:27 AM(UTC)
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There is a lot of bad stories about Ritalin. It works for some people and really doesnt for others. I would suggest looking at this link http://www.risingchild.c...rta+or+Ritlin?groupid=2 parents discuss thier experience with Concerta as well as Ritalin treatments.
Hopefully you will get answers you are looking for.
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#37 Posted : Friday, February 11, 2011 2:46:20 PM(UTC)
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My daughter is 11 and I recently had the usual first term parent teacher meeting and since she's been in grade 1 every year I get the same thing. She's not coping, she's disorganised and is easily distracted has difficulty completing work. Once again I was told I needed to put her on Ritalin. I have tried eyeQ, Omega 3+6 Oils, Bio Strath and sent her for Wise Eye which is suppose to help children with learning disabilities. I am now at my wits ends and still very confused...Do I put her on Ritalin or not. I am so worried it will do more harm than good, but I also want to give her the best possible advantage and opportunity. I am so confused Think

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#38 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:38:16 PM(UTC)
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Hi lalies

Shoowee, I'll bet you didn't expect a tirade like this when you posted your initial question!?

:)

Ritalin, when administered according to a proper prescription and monitored properly using regular feedback from the child's parents and teachers, can be beneficial provided the child has been correctly diagnosed with ADHD. In that case, the correct dose for a child who really needs medication like Ritalin or Concerta (both are methylphenidate) can aid a child tremendously to learn to focus on task completion in class and at home.
A child who is misdiagnosed with ADHD will not benefit from taking medication at all, but the same can be said for incorrectly diagnosing and treating any illness or disorder.

The thing to keep in mind though, is that medication is not the be-all and end-all of ADHD treatment. Your parenting style and strategy has to change, the way your child's teachers handle him needs to change. An ADHD child's diet needs to be monitored because they often get too distracted to eat and making sure they eat properly and regularly is very important. A multivitamin is a great idea for any growing child.

If you are going to Google something like Ritalin or ADHD you are going to see very little thats good about it because its the bad news that sells, unfortunately. Speak to your doctor and listen to your heart.

Best of luck to you lalies, I hope you find the solution that works for your child.
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