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Teen on mixit at night
Marian
#1 Posted : Friday, August 06, 2010 6:57:15 PM(UTC)
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The other morning when I went to wake my 16-year-old son he had his phone on the pillow next to him, still on mixit. I am not worried about the mixit, except that he is obviously on it late at night and I worry that he doesn't get to sleep early enough. He is difficult to wake in the morning, but so are many teens. I have asked him not to go on mixit in bed at night, but I don't want to come down heavily on him about it, as he is such a good boy in every other way. What seems like a reasonable rule to make about this? Or is he too old for me to be involved in his bedtime?
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#2 Posted : Friday, August 06, 2010 8:24:40 PM(UTC)
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Take his phone away.

Why does he have a phone? To call you in an emergency, or to screw up his scholastic life? Answer that, and you'll know what you SHOULD do.

The phone is a privilege. He's abused a privilege. The privilege must be removed until he has proved that he can handle the privilege responsibly. If you fail in this, you might as well send him to beg on the street corner now - 'cause that's where he'll be in 5 years time.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:34:01 AM(UTC)
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For all you idiots now finding out that parenthood is responsible job why did you not give it more thought when you pulled down your pants?
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:14:22 AM(UTC)
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My daugther is 12 and she is not allowed to use M-xit. She will also not be allowed to use it when she is in High School. Take the phone away. Block Mxit. Maybe it is time that parents spend quality time with their kids and stop leaving them to do things alone.

My daughter share everything with me and we have a close bond, because TV, Mxit and Video games is not first in her life and will never be.

Love and understanding is all they want. You are the parent and You set the rules!!!
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:16:16 PM(UTC)
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My initial reaction is that, at 16, you shouldn't really be making a big deal of his bedtime unless it's having some effect on another area of his life. You don't give much detail, but if for instance his getting out of bed late delays everyone else and makes mornings more stressful then by all means impose a penalty for staying up so late. similarly, if his late nights are affecting his mood or schoolwork or something else important then yes, impose boundaries - it's your house and your rules. But if the issue is only about whether he's getting enough sleep - I really wouldn't stress about it as you say he's a good boy in all other respects if this is THE biggest issue then I know of many parents who would love to have your "'problems" . :)
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:41:24 PM(UTC)
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My daugther is 12 and she is not allowed to use M-xit. She will also not be allowed to use it when she is in High School. Take the phone away. Block Mxit. Maybe it is time that parents spend quality time with their kids and stop leaving them to do things alone.

My daughter share everything with me and we have a close bond, because TV, Mxit and Video games is not first in her life and will never be.

Love and understanding is all they want. You are the parent and You set the rules!!!



Same with my 12 year old daughter. She does not own a cellphone for that matter. Most parents have not reliased how corrupt their chatting kids are. They sleep with thousands of men in a day on the phone. They watch porn and sex videos on the phone. What will then stop them from practising sex and not only with one person but with anyone that approach them.

It's high time we as parents take a stand, and because we cannot ban mixit, facebook twitter and all these crazy socialnetworks, a way foward is to take away all those internet, bluetooth enabled phones from our kids. They wont die but will live long. (AIDS is a killer deases and it's here to stay)
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:00:45 PM(UTC)
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Oh for goodness sake! Get a grip people! Dont you think you sound like your own parents? You cannot fight against the way the world moves for goodness sake. Your parents didnt stop change by moaning and crying any more than you will. You have to deal with it as the adults you are.

To Marian, have you spoken to him about it? Maybe write up an agreement as to the rules of mxit. Make him sign them therefore teaching him to stick to his agreements or face the consequences.

You cannot stop them using technology anymore than you should want to. Rather teach them how to use it responsibly. Always ask yourself - what lesson are you teaching him in the long run. Responsible use is the answer here and consequences if not but communicate, communicate, communicate.

I have 4 sons with the oldest being 21 and the agreed rules worked for us. Did/do they do things behind my back? Maybe but all my boys are well adjusted and have never been in any serious trouble. Neither an iron fist nor complete lack of rules works.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:45:47 PM(UTC)
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Wow so many uninformed people. Kids these days communicate differently to when you were a child; and no amount of moaning and bitching will change that. Rather educate your children and build trust; because they will have access to all the tech when you are not around and they are with their friends or at school.
An a phone is not a priviledge; it is a neccesity for todays teenagers. Don't become what you hated in your own parents.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:56:42 PM(UTC)
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BRAVO to you parents who recommend removing the internet-enabled cellphones!

Removing the internet-enabled phones is the best step any parent can take - cellphones are supposed to be a tool that people use, not a 'drug' which they cannot live without. With Mxit &c. you find children addicted to 'networking', to chatting, to pornography (sexting), even becoming exposed to drugs, all to the detriment of their schoolwork, their social skills, and also their health (growing children need at least eight (8) hours sleep a night, every night).

Your child needs a cellphone for only one thing. To call YOU in case of an emergency. There are MANY cellphones out there that perform that one function (making calls) admirably - such as the Nokia 1208, retailing at around R250-00 - and the added bonus is that these phones are not crime targets/magnets. If your child MUST have a phone, give him one of these plain phone-only units.

You reap what you sow - and if you sow great expectations along with state-of-the-art cellphones and too much personal freedom at an age when they are unable or unwilling to use this responsibly, and you additionally thereby neglect to ensure that the means to achieve same is achieved (an outstanding education), then you will reap an unhealthy child with unrealistic expectations who WILL become frustrated, angry, and rebellious.

A surefire recipe for disaster.

Yes, technology can be good - if used properly. But when (as in this case) it is obvious that the technology is being abused, remove it. The question is continually asked - and the answer is almost never given: What benefit(s), precisely, does Mxit confer on users that cannot be achieved through normal, realistic, face-to-face communication? The answer is, none whatsoever.

There is a time and a place for everything. But learning to socialise is something that happens face-to-face, not via a handheld radio device. And THAT is where most people miss the bus completely. Mxit et al is NOT socialising, nor essential thereto. At best Mxit is an adjunct to healthy, face-to-face socialising. The problem is, socialising should never take precedence over work (school or otherwise), family, or health. Mxit encourages "cypher-socialising" over and above any form of normal human interaction, and as such is dangerous to normal personality development and human relations. The only people who should be using Mxit to socialise are those who are physically unable to interact properly with others - people like Stephen Hawking.

Honestly, does your teenager, like Stephen Hawking, NEED to use Mxit?

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:12:24 PM(UTC)
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I have taken away my 16 year old's phone because of mix it, he is also a good child in many ways. But after spending most of his time on mix it and sleeping very late, which also affected his school work I set up a rule that he can only have the phone on weekends and hand it over every Monday morning he adhered to the rule for a while ... then he decided to hide it. So I had no choice and took it way. That's the only thing you can do sometimes with kids because they don't understand when you try to reason with them, you just need to take a stand.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:15:28 PM(UTC)
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You bemoan the fact that those opposed to Mxit etc. "sound like your own parents" - perhaps YOUR parents were stupid, out-of-touch, unrealistic, selfish, and really not concerned with your welfare, guest (although I sincerely doubt it) - but the truth is, most of us had/have parents to whom we were their topmost priority, sometimes even more so than their own welfare, and whose wisdom in the decisions they made and the rules they enforced, made in their love for us, only became apparent to us once we ourselves had matured. If only MORE parents nowadays sounded like their own parents, and not politically-correct little drones whose only common characteristic is a fear of their own children, and a desire to appease all and any desires of their children, even to the detriment of those children's health and education, then perhaps we wouldn't have the problems with youngsters today that we generally do - the drug-taking, the immoral behaviour, the alcoholism, and the lack of a work-ethic.

Get this one thing straight, and all else will follow: your duty as a parent is to lead your children, to set an example to them, and to ensure that their safety in all things is paramount. Your duty is NOT, however, to give in to their every little whim, to run scared from any potential conflict with them, and to justify their shortcomings by trying to be 'reasonable' in all things. Sometimes you actually have to have a spine, to stand up for what is right, and to make a stand against that which is patently wrong. Even if it DOES make you unpopular.
Being unpopular comes with the territory.
It's part of being a good parent.
Mature individuals realise this and accept it.

Oh, and cellphones are NOT a necessity, Guest @ 10 August 2010 11:45:47. They are a privilege. Look up the meaning of the word 'necessity'. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/necessity?fromRef=true). Water, food, and shelter are necessities. Cellphones hardly compare to these.

Just because your children tell you "I MUST have it - I can't LIVE without it", doesn't make something a necessity. It just makes you stupid for believing them.


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#14 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:39:07 PM(UTC)
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'I have asked him not to go on mixit in bed at night'
Obviously you have a real mature relationship with your son, and he does not agree with your opinion of the situation. Since you are living in the enlightened age where you treat your son as a mature human being able to make responsible decisions for himself, why are you being so asininely about the issue.

If you have discussed the situation with him, and he disagreed with you, then what's the issue!? If you have given him the freedom to be his own man, then you must respect that freedom.

Hell, if he likes to do drugs, let him be, he's obviosuly mature and responsible enough to make the right descision. I've really never heard of any kid making wrong decisions like in EVER!
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When he opts to move out of your police state, then he may make and break he's own life, but as long as he lives with you.. he's your responsibility so make sure you are responsible and don't abidicate by relegating that responsibility to your son.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:56:33 PM(UTC)
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I think that you should tell him that should he not be more responsible with his phone and the amount of time he spends on it you will have to take it away. Remind him that he is not a baby anymore and that he needs to start acting like a "big boy" or you will have to treat him like a baby.
For every action there is a reaction he must learn that.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:27:01 PM(UTC)
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Oh my word you people are sooooo uptight! Honestly I am horrified by how people freak out over these things, you are such victims of propaganda. Thank God I never had any of you as parents, because if my parents were this bad, according to your estimations I should be a total washout by now! Or dead in a ditch!!!

That said I deal with a lot of youth on sensitive issues, and I can guarantee you, if you refuse to allow your children to grow within the generation they are living, and try to enforce the life you once knew on them without listening to them and teaching them how to survive in today's world responsibly, they will struggle, and they are at higher risk to make the wrong decisions when life does confront them with these challenges and you're not around.

I've seen too many teenagers commit suicide because they knew their own family would NEVER be able to understand. Being THIS ignorant about something like mxit, which like it or not is a REALITY, could just be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:58:38 PM(UTC)
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As a 22 year old who has just graduated - let me point out a few facts from the child's point of view - if I may?

1) MXit is NOT a necessity, it is simply a tool used to stay in touch with friends. I'm sure back in the day you went out and met up with friends down the road etc - but let's be realistic here: How many of you would let your kids wander the suburbian streets in this day and age? Safety issues abound in even the quietest suburbs and I for one have heard one too many horror stories about kids being kidnapped etc. I personally believe it is the lesser of two evils, and as sad as it is, this is the state of society that we live in.

2) A lot of parents here attribute their child's morals and ethics to their upbringing - which is a valid point. However, having attended a university away from home, I have seen the dangers of molly-coddling your children. I have seen saints turn into sinners and sinners repent and become responsible. Is this because of the way they were brough up - definitely. Is it because they weren't allowed access to MXit at home? Doubtful. Some children just go wild because you as parents have not allowed them to grow on their own and when they hit the real world, they are overwhelmed by choices. I stand by my view that a mature child means a mature relationship.

The bottom line here is that you need to ensure that as your child grows - your relationship grows with him and you treat him like he deserves to be treated. If you don't want him on the phone at that time, ensure he knows it, and knows the repercussions if he is caught with it. Show him why he can't be on at that time, and offer an alternative (maybe he can be on for a while before bed and then he gives you the phone when he goes to bed - it gives him the responsibility and makes it seem like he's in charge of his own decision to give up the phone).

Oh and everyone that says being unpopular as a parent is part-and-parcel of the job? GROW UP! I know enough kids who have ups and downs in their relationships with their parents but still love, respect and care for them.

P.S. From what I can gather from the parents I've talked to - YOUR generation was worse than ours in certain respects, and while we may not be perfect, I can bet my life savings that none of you were model children either.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:43:49 PM(UTC)
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First i just want to say I am 18 and I think it's a load of bull i was on mxit in school and now I am a co-owner of a company
Move on with technology no one can stop the world rotating and if you want your children to hate you one day carry on with this shit u call parenthood
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:41:23 PM(UTC)
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I can't help noticing most of you that have such strong opinions about " just saying no" still have young / no kids ( my 12 year old had no interest in such things either). there comes a time when you'd better start being a bit more flexible else you end up losing them completely. I know plenty of parents who still think their kids are perfectly innocent of all these modern ills. Truth is these kids are often the worst of the lot....because no one is guiding them through these things - only banning them.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:21:36 PM(UTC)
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Very sorry for you children who think that they know how to bring up (other) children - I say "NO!", I mean it, I enforce it, and I have several children (ranging from 7 to 18 years old) who have no problem with that. There are no discipline or communication problems in my house - I don't subscribe to political-correctness (which means, you step out of line, your butt feels it) and my rules are enforced. Also, if you don't like the rules, then you can leave - but you leave with whatever YOU own, that YOU worked for, and you support yourself from that moment onwards. Strangely enough, not one of my children wants to leave - so there goes THAT theory of yours. It works, because we talk about EVERYTHING, ALL THE TIME, and we're all happy where we are, because there is logic and reason in what I say, we discuss issues before decisions are made, and once the decisions are made we ALL stand by them. Children need and want discipline - ask any child psychologist - so this PC attitude of 'children are adults, let them do what they want' only makes children unhappy.

As far as Mxit/Facebook/etc. are concerned - I (and everybody else in my household) know what Mxit etc.. is, how it works, and I know the effect it has on children. You want to tell the 15-year-old girl in Benoni who just got raped how 'innocent' and 'good' Mxit is? You want to tell the parents of the young girl who committed suicide as a result of Facebook bullying how positive and uplifting Facebook is?

Come on, let's hear it.

As for the twit who boasts that s/he is "co-owner of a company" - it's obvious from your posting that you haven't even achieved basic literacy at school - you can't punctuate or even capitalise your sentences properly, yet you want to brag about having a 'company'? Hopefully whoever you're co-owner with (of whatever it is), knows how to read and write properly... Because in business, that's a basic requirement - serious people don't do business with uneducated and illiterate idiots. Using 'ebonix' spelling (like "u" for "you") when posting on a forum just highlights your lack of self-respect, lack of education, and lack of self-discipline. Then again, it's the kind of spelling children use on Mxit, so what more could anybody reasonably expect from somebody like you? I suspect it's the best you'll ever do.
Good luck, anyway! Chances are good we'll see you begging on a street corner soon!
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#21 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 2:28:46 PM(UTC)
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I am a single parent with a 15 year old boy who mix just as much as any other kid - BUT he has a time period in which he can mix - no mixing between 5 and 7 when I get home from work - and no mixing after 9 at night and he is fine with that - then his report came and his marks went down so I took away two days a week, and he is fine with that. The other rule is if he is not allowed to have a lock on his phone so whenever I want to I check it. YES I DO CHECK IT!!! I have a 19 year old too which used to mix just as much when he was 15 and since the TV ads came out where you can download porn from various numbers he used to hide his phone until one day he forgot the phone at home and I checked it and found porn on it. Long story short he wanted to run away to a girl which he met on mixit. It was a tough time being on my own but I got him through his teen years and today I'm quite proud of him

So iv'e learned my lesson and my 15 year old knows that if I find anything illegal on his phone he will be without mixit until he leaves my house to live on his own. I know kids grow up in a different world that we did and that technology moves forward but they are still KIDS and we need to keep them on the right track. And I know a lot of parents will not agree with me checking my kids stuff but hey, if you don't you don't know what they are up to and being kids they will always be up to something!!!

PS. my youngest are only 3 so hopefully by the time he is 15 mixit will be gone!
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#22 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:42:03 AM(UTC)
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Obviously I don't know the full situation but you claim your son is generally a good boy and you don't really have any other serious issues with him, if this is the case then just let him be. I did not have a set bed time at sixteen, just a general time of around 10pm - this gave me the sense of freedom and responsibility but also meant I wasn't up too late - if it started getting very late (like 11, which was late for me) my mom would just prompt me that I should get going to bed if I wanted to get up in the morning, and I turned out fine, I also found I started self regulating my sleeping and knowing what time I needed to go to sleep at in order to have enough energy the next day.

As for the Mxit aspect, if it's not really affecting any other part of his life (like schoolwork or behaviour), then just let it go - the fact he's leaving it open means you can be pretty sure he's not doing anything you wouldn't approve of (like sexting). If it really becomes an issue maybe a no cellphones in bed policy would work (if combined with the bedtime idea above)?

At sixteen he should be old enough to take responsibility for things like getting enough sleep, and if he doesn't then he has to deal with the consequences of not being able to get up the next morning - if you show you deem him responsible enough to make sure he gets enough sleep then he most likely will do so (the same with schoolwork etc).

You sound to be a generally pragmatic and open minded person who's done well so far so just follow your instincts, if they tell you there's an issue then there most likely is, but if they don't then just let things be.
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