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CRECHE VS. DAY NANNY
amandamoodley
#1 Posted : Friday, January 16, 2009 3:58:20 PM(UTC)
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Hi All

I am a mother of two boys - almost 2 year old and almost 3 year old. I've taken care of them, only, never left them alone even for five minutes with anybody. I need to get more involved in my husband's business now and there's a real urgency for that. I'm confused as to whether a Creche or Nanny is better. Can anyone suggest any great Nanny/Nanny Agency or Creche in the Umbilo, Durban area. I'd really appreciate the help, as I'm so afraid that I could make the wrong decision.

Thanx Guys...
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:37:01 PM(UTC)
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I do not live in the area, but I suggest you look it up on www.kidzworld.co.za and find one in your area. Good Luck, this decision is never easyThink
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#3 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2009 11:13:02 PM(UTC)
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hi

i'm from glenwood and recently got a nanny through edubabe.
my nanny got training - first aid, baby courses..
call claire 083 297 4946.

best regards
anz
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:42:10 PM(UTC)
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I think creche is a good idea ..They will learn social skills.

Good luck!
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:34:43 PM(UTC)
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Creche is a good idea, but they get sick from other kids there (some moms feel feathers about dropping their kids off at chreche when they are seriously sick). We moved my son from his beloved day mom (a godsend), and put him in a chreche, two weeks later he got the flu, and subsequently picked up pneumonia, all thanks to the other snot nosed kiddies. My paed recommendeds that kids only be put in chreche after 3 years of age, once their immune systems are fully developed. We have decided to keep my son in the creche, and have discussed stricter sickness policies with the "headmaster". I also requested that the kiddies be split up in the morning according to their age groups / classes, while they wait for their teachers to arrive at school, because before the kids were all kept in one classroom in the morning untill class began, luckily that has now changed. I do understand that my child will get sick, but forcing other sick kids on a 2 year old is ludacrous, and totally unneccesary!

Good luck with your decision.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:08:36 PM(UTC)
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As a dad im never sure if im allowed to comment but here goes, let your kids go to chreche, it makes the world of difference for their development. My daughter of 2 and a half started this year and i believe she should have gone earlier. She has got flu once but the schools very vigilant about not letting kids come to school if they are sick. Its a tough decision but a full time nanny cant give them the stimulation or development tools that a GOOD creche can. Good luck!
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#7 Posted : Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:20:39 PM(UTC)
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Hi ronaldgall -- We need to hear from dads as much as possible. Please comment whenever the urge strikes. Parenting is not just for women, as you obviously live in your own life. Thanks!
Darkken
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:03:44 PM(UTC)
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thanks parent24ed ... seeing that response made me feel welcome to join. As ronaldgall222 said it's sometimes hard being a dad ... and even harder to wade into the forum's so populated by the fairer advisors. But I'll throw caution to the wind as I am the proud father of twin boys who just turned 5 and have recently emerged from exactly the topic in chat.
My wife and I placed them in a creche when they were about 1 1/2 as we both worked full jobs and had a number of hair raising experiences with day mothers. The problem we found is that the nanny of olde at the wage of olde was unworkable ... and yes it's frightening how many people still pay such atrocious wages and place their children in the care of a person who could never exercise true care at that level of employment. We however couldnt afford to pay a "real" wage / salary and so the creche option was partly an economic reality. It was comforting that it was my aunt's creche but my real point is this.

Despite all the coughs and illness brought on by the exposure to other little urchins who's parents should clearly have known better ... and not withstanding that we nearly losty our one son in a famous brand hospital due to pure incompetence on the part of the nursing staff ... they emerged at the age of 4 1/2 last year to enter 'big school" as they call it having acquired at least the initial social grounding of being amongst other little people. And in today's world they need every advantage they can get ... and as soon as they can possibly grasp it.

There is only one ryder to this equation and that is do not leave them there too long. We moved our little superhero's at 4 1/2 to a private school that had a preschool class. WOW what a difference having them in a formal school !! Now we both agree that it should have been at 4 (I think this is the youngest that they are accepted). We will always be grateful for the creche start but having them around children of the same age AND being subltely manouvered towards Grade R, where they are now, had an enourmous impact on their little aura's and sense of well being. They are still adapting to the concept of school and friends and all those lovely new ideas but we didn't it seem leave it too late.

Anyway best of luck with the decision. I know there's no reset button, but that said though it is amazing how resilient the little spidermen can be and how they will always adapt ... somehow.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:28:29 PM(UTC)
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Wow Darkken, what a great post, really goes into the nitty-gritty of your experience. I found it so interesting, but as you say, whatever we do, the little ones seem to bounce back very quickly.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:19:16 PM(UTC)
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thanks ... I'm afraid you now have my attention and you're going to have to put up with me. With a busy work life it's hard to find time to talk about the little ones that you are so attached to. I suppose that if we all shared our "mostly good" experiences with each other the world would be such a better place to live in ... and raise them.
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#11 Posted : Friday, February 27, 2009 4:18:15 PM(UTC)
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I think a creche will be better. My cousin put her daughter in a playgroup (She'll be 2 in May). She just felt she wasn't being stimulated enough at the place she was being looked after and she is develoing so much faster now that she has other kids to play with.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:55:25 AM(UTC)
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A word of advice.........do NOT put your kids in a creche unless you are prepared to have them sick all the time. I would advise you look At the Crawford School for your 3 yr old - they are brilliant. Their policies on sick kids coming to school is non negotiable. Yes, social interaction is important and so is mental stimulation, but so is the importance of your little ones not having to have anitbiotics on a regular basis.

My 2 year old daughter has been in creche since 6 months and from that day she has had ear infections EVERY MONTH, we picked up mycoplasmas from the creche which resulted in a week in the paed unit in johannesburg with Pneumonia, other peoples hygiene standards are NOT going to be up to scratch and you are going to fight endless battles with principles that run the schools purely because it is a MONEY MAKER for them. For instance, my daughter spent Dec 08 and Jan 09 away from the creche, she was GERM and SICKNESS free even though my mom got flu - she didn't pick up a thing.......3 days back at that creche she was sick and I was taking time off work to go to the Paed. She is on low grade antibiotics EVERY DAY while she is in that environ because you get other parents who could not care less about whether or not they drop their ill and infectious kids at day care.

I would say find yourself a wonderfull nanny, I interviewed ladies and can tell you that there are some really wonderful ladies out there that will be capable of looking after your kids. Save yourself thousands of rands because you wont be trotting to the GP or Paed every 5 mins! And your childs immune system will have a chance to develop.

If I could go back and start over - I would not send her to creche, unless it was a creche that had strict policies on illness and sick children as well as an impecable hygiene record and standard.....simply vacuuming carpets is not enough in a day care facility!

Good luck!
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#13 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:13:19 PM(UTC)
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Hi aggie.davies. Seems like we are in the same boat here (read my previous post). Sounds like you have had it far worse than i. You are right, creches and playgroups are run like businesses and its not right. Even though my son (who recently turned 2) is flourishing at his creche, i cant help but worry endlessly when the next "germ" will hit. My son was absolutely healthy for his first 2 years of life, no flu, no coughing, the odd high temp, but nothing serious, untill we put him in creche. I can honestly say that a day mom is the absolute best choice for a baby for as longs as possible. Antibiotics seem to do more harm than good, and it brings their immune systems down. All i can say for now is that if i even so much as see a snot nosed kid when i drop my son off, i am going to demand that the parents be contacted immediately to fetch thier child, im sorry if its harsh, but my childs health takes top priority.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:41:25 PM(UTC)
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Hello, I have a 16 month old boy and I am desperate to get him into a playgroup or creche as he doesn't have any friends his age. I look after him full time but he is quite a character and very social. I think it might be good for him and he is so eager to learn, gets bored real quickly and so clever. Some of you mentioned creche and having had good experiences. Is there is anything you can recommend in the Cape Town area (Atlantic sea board or City Bowl areas) That don't cost an arm and a leg ... :-) Thanks in advance !!
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#15 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:55:06 PM(UTC)
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Hi There

If anyone knows of a day mother in the North Riding/Randburg area can you please send me their contact details.

Many thanks & Kind regards,
AsH
#16 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 12:08:56 PM(UTC)
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Hi, I am a Dad of note. My wife and I had our first baby girl, who is now 9 months young. We had her at home for 6 months, altho, she was 6 weeks premature, she never had any sickness. Once at creche, she was sick almost very week for 3 months. Since we did not trust anyone alone with our little precious angel, we hired a dedicted nanny at creche, but found that she was still getting sick, we then had them both at home with our supervision, but found that the nanny went against what we wanted behind our backs. We had to take leave, get the grandparents over, eventually now, we have interviewed a few Professional Nannies, we are happy with one, but still scared, she comes well recommended. Help?
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:06:17 PM(UTC)
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Dear Mums and Dads,

Get real, you cant put your child in a bubble all their lives. Children need to get sick and need to be exposed. Its dog eats dog world out there and you will be sending your child out there soon. They need to be tough and exposed. I'm not saying that you must just put them into any money making, germ infested creche there is, just as you would interview and research nannies, so to, should you with the creche's and playgroups. There are lots of them around you and you need to research and interview them as well. Ask around, speak to other mums/dads, google search them. Go in and chat to the teachers, principals. Make an informed decision. You are a parent, once you walk in you will get the vibe. Have a look at the other kids. Are they happy, are they sick, what are they doing...playing? sleeping? sitting around unstimulated? Look everywhere, even the change areas? Ask lots of questions and assess they way the answers come out? Ask about hygiene, visit the kitchen, ask about cleanliness and what measures are being taken. You have a right to a tour of the entire premises.

I was so overwhelmed and overprotective when I gave birth to my son now 23 months. I was determined that not to put him in with all those snotty nosed kids in a creche. I had a wonderful and trusted nanny who had 30years of child care experience in my family. When I had to fly out of town/country for work, I flew my mum or mum-in-law up and down to give extra help to my nanny and hubby while I was away. My son was 10mnths, when my nanny started showing signs of not being able to cope with a now running toddler. She was aging and her eyesight was deteriorating and yes she did what she felt behind my back, even though I told her otherwise. She had her conventional way of doing things and was not prepared to change or rather found it difficult to change. She packed his toys and books away to keep the house tidy instead of using it to stimulate him. She took his crayons away because he scribbled on the wall, instead of guiding him to his coloring books. She lacked the skill to stimulate my son and yes it drove me crazy. She carried him around all day to avoid him running around and getting up to mischief. My son was bored and he needed to be stimulated. She was wonderful at taking care of a baby but now we needed a professional. And yes that meant the dreaded creche/playgroup.

My son started a half day for 3 months from Jan to March 2010, now he is in a fulltime playgroup. He absolutely loves it and is a friendly happy baby who is not bored anymore, he is not being couped up inside the house anymore and he is not being neglected or carried around all day to avoid him getting up to mischief. He is with other kids learning to interact and socialise and find his feet in the world out there. He counts to ten, knows his abc's, knows the color yellow, and fits a 6 piece puzzle with no hassle. He climbs up and down jungle gyms with no fear, all of these would have never happened with our nanny. He even knows his name and surname and his mummies phone number. All of this is just 2months at the playgroup. He has never been a scared shy boy and speaks and interacts with all children and adults. Yes, its his first winter in playgroup and he is getting sick. But he gets better and we move on. I have prepared myself for the sickness and supplement him with vitamins and immune boosters. Let me tell you nannies do as they please when you are not around. My friend put a camera in her home and found her nanny sitting around doing nothing or chatting on her phone while the baby cried. And smacked the baby when she didnt listen and ate the baby's food while she was feeding the baby, one mouthful to the baby and one to the nanny. You have no control of both situations. Goodluck either way.
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I completely agree with the previous post. We also battled with the decision of whether to put our 5 month old daughter in a creche or get a minder who could look after her at our home. I interviewed 2 minders who I left to their own devices with my supervision, and the standard of hygiene was not up to scratch at all, that said I am not even going to mention the other "parenting strategies" that they approved of.
I then went on a week long mission to find a suitable creche, where my daughter would be stimulated and learn social skills. She is now 9 months old, and yes, she has been very sick only once, and does get the occasional runny nose. I truly believe that children should get sick though, you cannot keep them huddled up at home because once they (inevitably) go into the big wide world they will contract all these viruses anyway.
My daughter cannot wait to go to creche in the mornings, the smile on her face every morning says enough to me.
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#19 Posted : Friday, May 21, 2010 5:57:26 PM(UTC)
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Hello, I suppose their is the plus sides to both and the negative to both.
I for one think that creche is good for a child: they learn, meet and play with other kids, are in a safe facility, staff are trained in an emergency, have a proper schedule and stick to it, are kept with kids their own age and learn at their own pace, gets them ready for primary school etc

Ofcourse there is the bad: Kids hurting yours, getting sick a lot.

I cant trust nannies to be honest.
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