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5-year old wets the bed
Louisa
#1 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 9:20:25 PM(UTC)
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My 5-year-old son wets the bed almost every night, although during the day he is completely off nappies. This has now become a problem, since his friends have started inviting him for sleepovers, and it's just impossible. I heard of an alarm that somehow tells you when the child is about the wet the bed? How does that work? What answers do other parents have for this bedwetting problem? I am sick and tired of washing stinky sheets and trying to dry out a ruined mattress every day. It is making me very angry. Would punishing him help to get him on the right track?
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:49:53 AM(UTC)
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Punishing him will only make things far worse. Wetting the bed is normally a sign of some insecurity that a child has, could be at home, or creche. Has anything changed in his life recently? New school, teacher, have you moved house? I suggest scrutinising every facet of what he is exposed to, and seeing if something is making him stressed.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:51:34 AM(UTC)
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Errr...no Louisa, punishing him will certainly not make things better! Think about it, as frustrated as you are by the situation, I guarantee you that it is frustrating him just as much. He is not wetting the bed deliberately and therefore how could punishment possibly help? It would just make him feel worse about it.

I too have a 5 year old son, who only very rarely has wet the bed since I started a simple routine with him. I do not refuse liquid completely in the evening, but I do limit it and restrict it to water only - and only up until about 7pm at the latest. I then make sure he empties his bladder before he goes to sleep at about 8pm. I also wake him around 9.30pm for a second visit to the bathroom and he always has another pee. With that routine I have had possibly 2 accidents in 6 months.

I have recently sometimes stopped waking him the second time and have been surprised by no wet bed in the morning. He does wake early though as we have an early start, i.e. 6am and the first thing he does is go for a pee.

I also praise him a lot for his achievements in this area and in the beginning, a little reward did not hurt either. Seriously, it's about managing his routine well, being sensible and lots of praise. Good luck, but please do not punish him for something that is not his fault.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:55:56 AM(UTC)
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Do not punish him, you will only make him feel like its his fault. The reasons for him wetting the bed could be physiological or psycholgical. I suggest chatting to a doctor to gain some more insight on the matter. They may suggest other methods of reducing the bed wetting. Just make sure that he doesn't drink any liquids 2 hours before bedtime, and make sure that he goes to the loo right before he goes to sleep. In the meantime, you should get mattress protectors so that your mattress doesn't get ruined. But please, please, do not punish him. I know what it feels like because I was a bedwetter when I was a kid.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:00:33 AM(UTC)
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Take your son to a urologist. My daughter who is older than him also wet her bed. She has taken the prescribed pills and it has stopped immediately.
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I had a bedwetter too, but his father and grandmother were bedwetters till 10 and 13 years respectively. No matter what I tried he had no control over it. As a very heavy sleeper, when I tried to wake him to pee, he could not wake and just cried. As I single mother, I too was tired of all the washing, plus, he would sleep through it and sleep in his pee till the morning. He is old enough to talk about it. I discussed it with my son and said that instead of having to bath every morning, would he not prefer to wear a nappy during the night. no-one had to know!! He chose to wear the nappy and most nights I put it on after he had fallen asleep. I restricted his fluid intake from around 5 and he knew it was for his own good and he went to pee about 3 times before going to sleep. With sleeping out, we restricted it to close friends who were nice enough to talk about it and understand that it is not cos he is a baby, but because he can't help it. I would explain it to the mom and liquid would be restricted and generally they would go to bed later than usual. So with the mom reminding him to pee all the time and understanding the situation, we never had incident. Luckily he grew out of it!! But in the mean time, making it a naughty issue is going to cause an issue! Its not his fault and should be treated as such - with love, care and only the attention it needs. In this case prevention is not better than cure!!
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The last thing you must do is punishing him. That will just cause more anxiety and aggravate the problem. Put him back on nighttime nappies. Make sure he doesn't drink anything for a few hours before going to bed. Make sure he goes for a wee just before bedtime. Try to take him for another wee at about 22h00 or just before you go to bed. Do this until he wakes-up the next morning with a dry nappy. This can even take a few months. The most important thing is not to put any pressure on him. That will just stress him out.

While doing this, try to figure out if he is unhappy or worried about anything. This is usually the problem with any bedwetting.

If this does not work, take him to a pediatrician to make sure there is nothing physical wrong with him.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:24:06 AM(UTC)
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Let's see: a mother who thinks punishing her child because he's wetting his bed, and you're wondering why? I don't think you need to go far to find the source of insecurity, etc. Love your child, particularly when they're having problems.
But, on with some positive advice. Buy a mattress protector. Yes, you will still have to wash the sheets, but the expensive mattress will stay dry and clean. Less fluids at night before bedtime, trips to the bathroom before bed. If you wake up in the night, take your child to the bathroom.
Don't stress the incident at all. Show your child you love them and that you're there for them, prepared to help them deal with whatever issues they're having.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:24:15 AM(UTC)
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I did too and a simple device solved my problem. It was not an emotional issue - I simply slept too deep. The device has an electrode that you button into your underwear, connected to an alarm in the shirt pocket. The moment the electrode gets wet, the alarm goes off. After a few weeks of using it, problem was solved. It is more often an issue of simply not being woken up by a full bladder than any emotional issue, though the latter could be present. Try a physical solution first ebfore assuming emotions...

Good luck!
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I understand your frustration. My son wet the bed until he was much older and was never able to go on sleepovers because of this. It is a very real problem and there is no point trying to punish him as this will only make things worse. Let me assure you he embarassed by this himself, especially as they get older. There are two things you can do on a practical level. You can buy a thick waterproof sheet from the medical supply shops - I actually got one from my local pharmacy. It prevents the mattress from getting wet at least and is made for people with incontinence. Second buy the alarm - we did this and it was the only thing that solved the problem. Not sure where you can get them now, as this was many years ago but am sure if you phone around to the medical supply shops someone will be able to assist. You put the one end of the alarm into a sanitary pad and the other end has a beeper, which goes off and awakens them as soon as it starts to get wet. Eventually they start to awake naturally when they start to wee. Never was sure if it was a psychological problem, but my son has grown into a fine young man, so take heart!! Wishing you the best of luck...
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:53:57 AM(UTC)
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My son is 4 and we started rewarding everynight he did not wet his bed. When he got 10 stickers in a row he received a gift. If he wet his bed he lost 2 stickers. This had immediate results. We still make him wee before he goes to bed but no longer use the sticker incentive.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:54:47 AM(UTC)
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Only feed him veggies or carbs after 6pm. protein or dairy in the evening will catabolise to water and also affect the bladder muscles.
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It is not something he can control - DO NOT PUNISH HIM! My 5 year old also had the same problem - in that she had not achieved night time dryness. After a little internet research this is what I learned:

It is often many things combined that make this happen so could need a many sided approach.

One of the elements is a sleep disorder where they sleep to heavily and can sort of squirt the wee out in a sort of contraction related to the sleep disorder.

There are a variety of medications out there that are very helpful (you need to go to a doctor for this) but they have an 90% relapse rate when the medication is stopped but they are brilliant for sleepovers!

I used an alarm (Malem make a good one). This has worked a treat with my child who was also 5, however it is actually not recommended at this age as THEY ARE TOO YOUNG. They recommend from age 8 or so. But as I say it did work for my daughter. It requires (especially at this age) a lot of parental intervention. It work on the principle of teaching the child the feeling of needing to urinate and helping make this a trigger to wake up. As a parent, you then need to hear the alarm, wake the child up, take it to the toilet and then reset the alarm - at 5 they will not ever be able to reset the alarm so you will have to do this, but older children learn to do this for themselves in the night.

The biggest problem with the alarm system (which has a very high success rate) is that they are shockingly expensive between R1000 - R2000. I bought mine online from the UK slightly cheaper - but still an expense. I have heard of places that rent them out but have not found any in SA.

The most important thing that I found out tho is that is actually very, very common for 5 year olds not to be dry at night something like 15% of all children.

Hope this helps and give your child a big hug, he really doesn't mean to make all this work for you.
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Also you could look at the emotionality behind this. As pointed out already what sort of trauma has been there recently. Even if it seems to have noting to do with the child and is yours or your husbands "stuff" it flows to the child and is manifested in behavioural issues. many of the kids I work with are miraculously "cured" when their parents address their own emotional issues.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:03:07 AM(UTC)
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We had the same issue with our son.

This is what worked for us:
1. Line the mattress with waterproof sheets.
2. Give him a nice talking to. Go down to his level, ie bending your knees and talk to him face to face. Tell him exactly what you expect and how he will be rewarded when he does not wet his bed.
3. Slow down on any drinks at least 2 hours before bed time. If this is difficult, then just give him tiny bits to drink at a time.
4. Make sure he goes to the loo often, even if you have to take him there by hand.
5. Make sure he goes to the loo right before bed time.
6. He should not wear any tight fitting shorts and jamies. The looser it sits around the waste the better. Sometimes the pressure on the waste can put extra pressure on the bladder...
7. Buy some nice looking Ben10 stickers or whatever tickles his fancy.
8. Print out a monthly calendar.
9. When he does wet his bed, say nothing -ignore it completely!
10. When he does not wet his bed, reward him with a sticker! Stick it onto the specific day he did not wet his bed.
11. When he has 5 nights in a row in which he did not wet his, reward him with a small toy.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ALWAYS KEEP YOUR COOL!!!

This absolutely worked like a charm for us. After 1 month, all problems went away however children do from time to time wet their beds as they do not have that same exceptional bladder control adults have.

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#17 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:10:51 AM(UTC)
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I want to add, "punishing" includes verbal punishment.. You can get a prescription pill that is very effective, but still don't give him caffiene before bedtime. Liimit water intake. And try to get him in a routine of going to toilet before bed. Refusing a thirsty child anything to drink (as some parents do) is bad and sad unless upon a temp. request by a medical doctor. If possible, take him to toilet about 2.5hours after him falling to sleep (in case you can't afford the pills or do both).
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:18:15 AM(UTC)
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@HotSpotStudio,
i DISAGREE on your one statement - you cannot reward your child for not wetting his bed. He does not have direct control over this. You can reward him if he do go to the loo before bedtime etc (i.e for obedience)
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:36:30 AM(UTC)
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I used to wet my bed when I was 8... when my parents went on a one-month overseas trip. When they returned the bedwetting stopped and I had no conscious control over it. There is some obvious insecurity in his life - look at what has changed in your life to cause that (e.g. new job, new house, parents fighting) and fix it first.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:48:02 AM(UTC)
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Bed wetting at that age is normally a sign of emotional problems, boys seems to be more difficult than girls regarding bed wetting, at age of 3 he should not be sleeping wearing nappies, I used a bed protector, it is not a big deal to just wash the sheets and sometimes the blankets, and no most of the times people think that there is something wrong with the child and run off to a doctor.
I actually found that my son was afraid of dark and was to scared to go to the toilet, I eventually fitted a light dimmer to the passage light and leave the dimmed light on at night, since then he stopped, he had 1 accident when he was 6 and that was because his mother visit them and left with out saying good bye, that you can clearly see is emotional.

They are shy to talk about wetting the bed, so please do not discuss it with others in front of him, but speak to him alone and explain to him that he must get up and go to the toilet when he feel like urinating, ask him if there are any problems that bug him ect.
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