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ConcernedB
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 2:38:37 PM(UTC)
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I am married with 2 kids. My first child was born out of wed lock to a different father. My husband was a darling to [my] child, for well over a year, until i gave birth to his own. I must say he is not the type to smack a child, and on the contrary i am, but his demina and the way he talks to her has changed completely. He is harsh to her, shouts even when its unneccesary. The worst thing that drives me over the edge is him holding grudges for her. He would shout at her for something, and a day later he would still be grovelling at her, when she has forgotten all about it and speaking or trying to play with him like any child would do. He would be playing with his son and hugging him, when she tries to join in, he will always dismiss her.
[My] daughter is not the sharpest crayon in the box, that i must say. She is the type that you have to tell the same thing over and over, which is frustrating, for all of us. She is 9, and i know<maybe im wrong>, that at her age she should be showing signs of growing up, eg, not to be told everytime that brush your teeth, come back for lunch when playing with ur friends etc. She also forgets everything, i mean everything. She comes back from school everyday with something missing from crayon to lunch box to jersey, but that is not the ground for always being on her case. As much as i also gets frustrated, and pinch her thighs, i try understand that she is only a child. He says this days she doesnt listen to her, and once said maybe its the adverse effects of what she picks from him.

She would be saying or asking something innocently, and the answer that comes would know me down to dizziness. Initially i'd wait for the child to move somewhere before i try to adress the issue. That would be my que to an hour's argument. He will personalise it, and turn into a "because im not her father argument", while telling me that i sat the whole time saying nothing, so i was over analizing and blowing everything out of proportion. This morning we had one such again, and softly i told him that it was not nice the way he spoke to her. God did he flip, raised his voice and an argument immediately erupted. This happens while we are driving to work, and i am very worried about the damage that this arguments does to her. I must say our relationship is not easy, at least for me, cos as much as all couples argue, our is too often. 99% of the time is when i show him something the wrong that he did, be it blasts me or her with his upleasant words, when its really unneccesary. We have even consulted a psycologist, after one morning when we argued to a point i couldnt go to work. I just booked a session and told him we are going, cos i felt defeated and wanted out. I can write a ten pager, but i really tried to summarise. I always ask myself whether am i compromising my child's happiness and well being for mine?? PLEASE ADVICE??
Gina
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:56:57 PM(UTC)
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Hi there - i've read your post and it's like reading my own thoughts. You've just written what I think everyday and you've asked the very question that I ask myself daily 'am i compromising my child's happiness and well being for mine?'
ComradeN
#3 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 6:36:06 PM(UTC)
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This is a very sensitive issue ConcernedB, unfortunately there is no manual book for parenting. I also have a step son (13 yrs). For the past 2 years, we have drifted apart and I am not sure what is the reason. In most cases, the issue is discipline and all the psychological changes that he is experiencing (resulting in him being moody and, at time, being disrespectful towards other people in the house except me). As the experts always advice, as a biological mother, you need to take full control of discipline and not compromise or spoil her. This is the time when she is developing her skills as a young woman. Maybe you need to consider attending therapy as a couple- snaping in front of kids or about kids is not going to help either. While they are growing up, both kids need to be treated equally because they did not create this situation.

While my culture as an black African dictates that kids born out of wedlock should be left at their maternal (mother's) home, today's situation makes that impossible. The challenge for us as step dads is that we always attach the biological dad's face to the child. I am hoping he agrees to therapy and you get help, for the sake of your daughter and son. Good luck!Boo hoo!
Black Sense
#5 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 8:54:50 AM(UTC)
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ConcernedB wrote:
I am married with 2 kids. My first child was born out of wed lock to a different father. My husband was a darling to [my] child, for well over a year, until i gave birth to his own. I must say he is not the type to smack a child, and on the contrary i am, but his demina and the way he talks to her has changed completely. He is harsh to her, shouts even when its unneccesary. The worst thing that drives me over the edge is him holding grudges for her. He would shout at her for something, and a day later he would still be grovelling at her, when she has forgotten all about it and speaking or trying to play with him like any child would do. He would be playing with his son and hugging him, when she tries to join in, he will always dismiss her.
[My] daughter is not the sharpest crayon in the box, that i must say. She is the type that you have to tell the same thing over and over, which is frustrating, for all of us. She is 9, and i know<maybe im wrong>, that at her age she should be showing signs of growing up, eg, not to be told everytime that brush your teeth, come back for lunch when playing with ur friends etc. She also forgets everything, i mean everything. She comes back from school everyday with something missing from crayon to lunch box to jersey, but that is not the ground for always being on her case. As much as i also gets frustrated, and pinch her thighs, i try understand that she is only a child. He says this days she doesnt listen to her, and once said maybe its the adverse effects of what she picks from him.

She would be saying or asking something innocently, and the answer that comes would know me down to dizziness. Initially i'd wait for the child to move somewhere before i try to adress the issue. That would be my que to an hour's argument. He will personalise it, and turn into a "because im not her father argument", while telling me that i sat the whole time saying nothing, so i was over analizing and blowing everything out of proportion. This morning we had one such again, and softly i told him that it was not nice the way he spoke to her. God did he flip, raised his voice and an argument immediately erupted. This happens while we are driving to work, and i am very worried about the damage that this arguments does to her. I must say our relationship is not easy, at least for me, cos as much as all couples argue, our is too often. 99% of the time is when i show him something the wrong that he did, be it blasts me or her with his upleasant words, when its really unneccesary. We have even consulted a psycologist, after one morning when we argued to a point i couldnt go to work. I just booked a session and told him we are going, cos i felt defeated and wanted out. I can write a ten pager, but i really tried to summarise. I always ask myself whether am i compromising my child's happiness and well being for mine?? PLEASE ADVICE??
gertie
#6 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2011 3:48:14 PM(UTC)
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ConcernedB, this does not sound healthy for anyone involved - the fights border on abuse - I'd even say on the wrong side of the line.

Him playing the "not my child card" is SO WRONG!!! You are a family now and he in essence adopted her.

You as couple should definitely go for counseling.
TeeRDee
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:30:29 AM(UTC)
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I really feel for you. I kind of understand what you are going through..

I just wanted to comment on another thing you mentioned, first; the one about her being 9 years old and should be showing some sign of growing up?
Well mine is 12. And he is thee most absent minded kid Ive met. (Except when it comes to things like skating and sports of course!!) - but forever losing items of clothing.. not knowing what homework is due... losing his schoolBAG, school SHOES!!! We are trying very hard, every day, to work on the responsibility factor - but it is a daily struggle. Some days better than others. Its an ongoing process. I hope it gets better at some point! So don't stress too much about it :) You are not alone.

My husband is also not his biological father, so I do understand the tension and the over-protectiveness you feel as well.

In my situation I've had to:
- Accept criticism of my own parenting and work on improving (as we all should be able to - but NOT easy)
- Allow my husband the space to BE A PARENT to my child

In no way, am I condoning his behaviour towards you or your child, but I just want you to try and see it from his perspective. We want them to be the fathers they now are when marrying us, but we often don't LET them. There is so much shouting going on over lunchboxes etc etc - so initially I allowed him to be the positive one, and me the negative one. So he's good cop. I crap on my kids head, and then a few mins later, he goes in with a more positive attitude and tries to talk to him in a more calm and warm manner (by which time I am totally p'ed off anyway, so I cant do that). This strengthens their bond too :) Now we take turns. So Im not the bad guy all the time!

GOOD LUCK to you and I hope that everything works out for your family. I hope that what I have said that could be of some value to you. Everyones situation is different... yet so similar in many ways.

*hugs*
ConcernedB
#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:56:18 PM(UTC)
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Anxious Thanks guys for your comments. Its really comforts me that someone understands where i come from. You know when you are in this kind of situation, especially a situation that you cannot prove with a scar or a bump, you find yourself second guessing your own concerns and feelings, like "am i unreasonable", or "am i blowing a mole hill into a mountain?".

My husband is a very complicated person, not even sure whether he will still agree to be dragged to therapy! The last time we went there, he told me not in so many words that i wasted money.
But the good thing here is that, after the recent mouth blows in the car, he apologised and acknowledged that he has a problem, and he needs help. But how do i help him?? He apologised via Email, and when we got home, he apologised again, but i didnt even know what to say to him. I wanted to talk, but i felt too weak for another argument.
Treading on the line of abuse??? I said it a whole lot of times to him, and he told me how unreasonable i am. I even told the therapist that thats how i felt, but i guess emotional abuse is always a subject that lies in the Grey Area as there is no tangible proof. I really want us to smooth things out, cos on another day, he is a husband that all girls dream about.
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