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Jazz
#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 08, 2011 4:47:48 PM(UTC)
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My ex and myself have broken up. It was my fault. My reconciliation attempt has failed (rightly so probably).

Of course losing a partner also means losing the child, at this age I dont think she misses me, and probably will forget that I even existed before long. Her mom will allow visits. But besides it being extremely painfull for me to see her mom, and my old life. Being a dad was the greatest experience of my life. But the fact is my ex will build a new life with a new partner, and my daughter will regard that man as her father.

Im seriously contemplating sacrificing my visitation rights just to make the whole experience less painfull for everyone involved. Of course It will be painfull not seeing my daughter. I dont think at this age it will negatively affect her, she will have a positive male influence, it just wont be me. To let them build a fresh new life is the least I can do for them.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:11:39 AM(UTC)
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I am sure that you have thought about this for a long time, and you are looking at this from an Adult perspective, but I would encourage you to stay in your Daughters life as an Active, Involved Father - as she needs you more than you can imagine. You will always be her father, no other partner in your wifes life can take that role. And as her father you should provide an role model of how to treat your children, and walking away because it is easier to leave the parenting to your Ex Wife and her new partner is not a good role model, you will find yourself cut out of her future and cast in a very selfish light. I would encourage you to go out of your way to stay involved with your Daughter - you can leave your Ex wifes life out of this, but keep up the visits and the outings and the contact, as your Daughter will need it in this very difficult time in her life, I am sure that your separation from your wife has been very easy on your Daughter, dont make it harder on her.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:43:25 AM(UTC)
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That is so selfish of you. This is not about you, this is about your child. She needs and deserves a father in her life and your supposed noble sacrifice is all about your self inflicted pain and not about her well being. Grow up and be a responsible father to your child.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:01:00 AM(UTC)
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I know the feeling! My advise, don't give up visitation rights! Your daughter will eventually want to know who her real father is (if she's grown up without you in her life) but she will very likely feel like something must have been wrong with HER as you never wanted to 'see' her. She will probably never understand how much it hurts you to 'see' her and not be involved in her life (be her father) but what she will feel (or think) is that you rejected her (which is obviously not the case) and that rejection will sort of 'haunt' her, thinking that there was/is something wrong with her.

Of course it's going to be very difficult for you ( I know!) but in the long run (in my opinion) it will do more damage to not get to know her! Part of making mistakes in life (and we all do!) is having to face up to the consequences and in this case you have to sacrifice (at least try) something of yourself to help your daughter to eventually deal with this as well. And it's not going to be easy! The fact that you want to give up visitation rights as it 'hurts' to not be her 'real' father, shows that you truly love your daughter! You should NEVER (try) and give up on that love as it is this love that they (children) need to grow up (even though you won't be permanently involved). It is this type of love (which will be a major sacrifice to yourself) that will make her strong when she grows up......knowing that her real father truly loves her even if he was not always there!

A lot of times you will feel like giving up (as it's not easy) but try not to! Try to just bite the bullet and accept that you've made a huge mistake and don't let the fact that you've made a mistake get you under! And do it for the sake of your daughter!

You don't have to see her every time! Sometimes it will be too much for you (and never tell her that!). The older they get the more important your time spent with them becomes. When they're quite small (young), they don't really understand.

But Godspeed to you! And try to forgive yourself for what you've done even though others will not (don't blame them). Like I said, we all make mistakes (some with more hurting consequences than others) but mistakes we make and we learn from!
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:03:15 AM(UTC)
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You are a brave father. I wish my daughters father would do this. he did not have contact with her for almost 7 years and came back demanding to see her. he left with his skelm and married her. we had to intergrate him and his new family slowly into my daughters life and a year later it really is still turning her world upside down - and not in a good sense. her father has rights and he abuses the fact to get HIS will and not what is in the best interest of our child - and more so his wife who wants a second child. Now its of to the high court and thousands of rands later!!!!

all that said, my advise - pray good and hard about it. it is important for a child to get to know her father - she/he has to know and identify with him - which is why i have allowed this painfull process. The most important thing in a childs life is love and stability and maybe you and your ex can work out to have a good relationship on behalf of your child and you can have an input in the childs life in such a way that is not interfering in you ex and her husband raising of the child - cause face it the child like you said will be associating with the new man as her father as well. all the best dear father.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:29:54 AM(UTC)
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Stay involved. People screw up all the time. I know woman who have screwed up and walked away from their marriages (AND CHILDREN) believe it or not.

I personally have also messed up and the day my wife finds out it'll be over for my marriage too. But I have every intention of staying a daddy to my kids.

Your child should not be punished having to grow up without her father, just because of your bad decisions.

Don't run away from your responsibilities, in time people will soften towards your sins, and some will forgive you. Your child deserves your love and protection regardless of what you've done. BE THERE FOR HER!

Just hide from it now just because it's awkward or uncomfortable, that too will pass.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:23:38 AM(UTC)
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Dear heaven above, whatever you do don't do this to your little girl.
I don't care how hard or painful it is for you to see your ex and daughter and your "old way of life" your child deserves to have a loving and present father.
My little girl has only seen her father on his terms, every second Sunday only, has no sleep over visits, which was his choice too. She is now 12 and he has no real relationship with her. I see how sad that makes her.

Stay in her life, no matter how painful it may be for you, it is more painful for her to lose her father.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:50:01 AM(UTC)
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Jy moet beslis deel wees van hulle lewe. ek het 2 dogters 3 en 4, ma was elke dag betrokke en hulle bly by haar. ek het gevoel soos jy en voel baie dae nog so. ek wil net die seer stop. maar nou is ons op so punt dat dit kom amper reg tussen my en die ma. familie meng nie meer in nie. en sy gee al hoe minder aandag aan die kinders. hulle wil nie meer so baie by haar wees nie en net meer by my. ek het besef ek is al wat hulle het so ek moet maar die beste maak. dan kuier ons saam en is die kinders gesond en baie happy. dan kuier ma weer saam vriend hendrik wat wat 23 jaar ouer as sy is. sodra hy besig is wil ma net by ons wees. so ja tyd en baie Bid sal dinge herstel. Einde november is die Ma n jaar uit die huis. sy dink al aan terug kom maar dan kan sy nie uitgaan nie. die kinders vra al hoekom sy nie wil terug nie dan is sy kwaad vir so dag en daarna kuier sy maar weer hier vir paar dae. die sleg deel is as jy opgee en sy wil minder met hulle te doen he wat word dan van die kind? Hardloop is nie wat God van jou verwag. Hy maak dit maklik en se gaan op jou kniee, en Bid. nie staan op en vat die pyn nie. n Jaar na sy uit die huis is en ek en my ex se ouers kuier meer en lekker der as my eie. neem in ag my skoonma en skoonsus was die oorsaak van die skeisaak. almal wil in belang van die kinders optree en hulle wens ook die ma kan die foute van die verlede regmaak of herstel. Al wat ek kan se moet nie die kind los nie. hulle het iemand nodig en beslis die pa. nie die ander man nie. Ek weet die ou van 60+ gaan nie na my kinders kyk soos ek nie. die ma gaan dit besef en ek hoop vir haar dit is nie te laat nie. want as die kinders hulle rug gan draai op haar is dit n groter probleem As die ou net ophou haar wil koop met sy geld dan is als ok.maar die ma geniet die bederf. maar as daar n probleem is hardloop sy huis toe dat ek haar moet troos of help. Al wat ek se ek bid vir jou. dit kan reg kom, moet net nie die kind los nie. God het n vreemde pad met ons lewens. maak nie altyd dadelik sin nie maar aan die einde van die dag was dit die beste om dit vir God te gee om te help. Se eerder dankie dat jy daar kan wees as wat jy moontelik nie daar kon wees nie ( ek was 3 keer baie naby aan die dood en wonder hoekom God my nie vat nie) . Hou moed oor die langer termyn kan als verander as dit God se wil is moet nie jy besluit wat is Sy wil nie.
Baie sterkte daar, ek wens ek kan jou help.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:00:42 PM(UTC)
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Hey Man whatever you do - do not walk out of your daughters life. I went through a painful divorce as well, we had two kids and I know it is not easy. My ex decided to remarry and moved to New Zealand without my knowledge (taking the kids with). It took me 8 years to trace them.

That was the worse 8 years of my life. We have now made contact and I have been over to NZ to see them. That again was not easy as they are young adults now, but it all worked out. During the period that I was searching for them I was totally stressed and also ended up suffering from depression. That landed me into a Psychiatric hospital for a few weeks.

Dont do this to yourself or your daughter. Face up to the situation and deal with it while you still have the chance.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:42:25 PM(UTC)
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Have to agree that you should not write your daughter out of your life. Sounds like you made some bad decisions, don't make another. Stick it out for your daughter and give her all the support and loving you can. In the beginning its hard, but it gets easier. You have a life full of responsibilities ahead of you that you cannot just ignore. Look at it this way, you made mistakes, maybe your wife too, but your kid didn't make any and asked for no part in the divorce. They are TOTALLY innocent. You need to stand up and make up for dropping your daughter. You'll make lots of other mistakes along the way, but never give up on your kid! Read as much as you can about how to deal with kids in a divorce, there are so many things. Forgive her mom and always be pleasant to her, never say bad things about her mom, but let your daughter know its over. If you can, always keep the lines of communication open with your ex and discuss how things are going. You BOTH have a responsibility to your daughter!
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:47:21 PM(UTC)
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Snap out of it!!Brick wall Grow up and be a MAN!!! U need to go chill, stop running on emotions and relax. Get back into a routine..sports...etc...clear your mind and realise your life is not over. Just because u2 two are not working don't take it out on the little one, that is the COWARDS way out..sorry but I'm blunt cause we sugar coat just waaaaay to much in SA...Boo hoo!
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:15:48 PM(UTC)
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I am exactly where you are now, and i know what you are going through, and the loss you feel everyday , for those that dont know, to have all this expectation about being a dad , first steps, first tooth , first words all taken away from you, its very tough, especially when a child is so young at the time, like in my case where they dont know you.

the time offered to me to be with my daughter has been severely limited due to her age , have to visit there, cant take her away for weekend etc , so every 2 weeks you basically feel like an absolute stranger in this little persons life for the few hours you allowed

i also "gave " up thinking that maybe its best that she doesnt know me, that she wont be confused etc, that has fallen through with the realization i dont want to live without my daughter , and will accept my limited role in whatever capacity , until such time as she is old enough and realizes what a father is , i pay without fail so she never goes without, and will be there for her when she needs me , and hope that the little time i get , that we can build a special relationship one day.

goodluck with your decision , and know that there are many individuals in your situation too, and its very difficult for an outsider to understand what it feels like to be cut out of someones life especially when they are so young and as a father you haven't fully realized the joys when they know who you are .

Hang in there and accept your relationship with ex is over and that your feelings will fade and you will get over it but the relationship with your daughter will be there for a lifetime ,and the loss of that relationship will haunt you for the rest of your life !
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#14 Posted : Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:49:45 AM(UTC)
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I am 36 and grew without a dad. My biologcal father decided to absolve himself from any responsibility towards me before i was ven born. He came to see mee when i was two days old and the next time I saw him again is when I was 13. I treid so hard to build a relationship with him but it was simply too late. We had no history, nothing to build on, nothing in common and no bond.
Today he is in his late 70's and dying of terminal cancer alone in a care facility. I tried to reach out to me but truth be told, he am completely indifferent and not willing to subject my children to his emotional battle. He asked my forgiveness and I could hardly hear him through his tears and rasping for air, but I can't forgive because I have nothing to forgive. I harbour no ill will, no hatred, no blame, no anger. I also have no love, understanding, compassion. I only wish him some comfort because he is battling regret as much as he is battling for oxygen.
My mother did remarry when i was about 2, to a man who completely ignored me or laughed his head off when I fell and scraped my knees raw. Apart from an uncle whom I saw every now and again, I had no dad to protect me from school bullies, no dad to teach me to ride a bike, no dad to clap in the audience at school, no dad who grabbed boyfriends by their scruff when they deserved to be grabbed and shaken about, no dad to teach me to drive a car, no dad to give me away at my wedding ano no dad who secretly gave his grankids chocolate. Thanks to three brothers and two male cousins I can do anything from changing a flat tyre to choosing the right drillbit to drill holes into concrete. But I married the only perfect man on this planet so i don't need to do anything like that. If you want a childhood like that for your daughter and to spend your lasty days alone and pathetic by all means break contact. If you are unable to stand up, take responsibility for your actions and raise and protect your daughter like your should, then be prepared to be labled a looser and coward for a very long time. No pathetic excuse will soothe your guilt. In for those mothers who would love nothing more than to keep their kids away from their fathers, I blame my mother for the years and years of therapy it took me to realise that I did nothing wrong and that i could not do anything different to win a fathers love and approval. They played their selfish little games like two pernicious weasels with little thoguht of what was in my best interest. Today they have to live with the decisions they made on their own. I am blissfully happy, healthy, proud and self confident but it took a horrible scarred childhood and many many many tears to be where and who I am today. I look back and although I am indifferent towards my biological father, I was so deeply envious of little girls who rode around on their dad's necks.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:52:07 PM(UTC)
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Hi there,
It is a very difficult time you are going through, but do NOT give up your rights to be a father and in your daughters life. It might seem like the obvious to do, but please consider it again.
Growing up without a father, later in life it has negative effects on any daugther, and the husband/partner you choose then, will be the wrong one, because you did not know your father and had no guide lines.
A stepfather chooses to be in a child's life, or to mess it up, or abuse them. Think and pray about your decision...I have worked with Child Welfare and if only I can open parent's eyes to the heartache they actually cause their children by making those kind of decisions.
Any parent is better than no parent. I wish you well. Remember, you can always find a husband/wife/partner, but their is NO DUPLICATE copy of your child.
Tom
#17 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 11:31:03 AM(UTC)
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Jazz, from what you've written, I don't believe you're in a fit state of mind to be making decisions of this caliber right now. When any relationship goes belly-up, particularly when you yourself are at least in part responsible therefore, it's natural to feel depressed and even, to an extent, worthless.

This is normal.

But if you make a decision now, regarding your child, without having at least returned to a state of 'normality' (i.e. NOT depressed), then you WILL regret your decision in years to come.

You are your child's father. Nothing can change that. Nor should it be changed.

Take time to heal, and a year or maybe two from now you will be ready to make a reasoned, logical decision.

Good luck - and remember, no matter what you've done, you yourself are also hurting. Cut yourself at least a little slack - and come back here in a year to tell us what your decision is.

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#18 Posted : Sunday, November 13, 2011 6:59:47 PM(UTC)
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The absolute, absolute MUST READ is Divorce Poison by Dr Richard Warshak.

EVERY PERSON WHO HAS GONE OR IS GOING THROUGH A DIVORCE SHOULD READ IT.

AND THAT'S THAT.
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