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#1 Posted : Friday, January 01, 2010 5:25:29 PM(UTC)
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Hi
I wanted to get an idea of what maintenance people are receiving from their exes.
Is R2300 for a 4 year reasonable from a salary of R12 000 (net, after tax etc). I earn more than my ex.
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#2 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 11:51:56 AM(UTC)
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Hi guest, so your maintenance hasn't changed for four years? That doesn't seem right, but I suppose this all depends on the changing costs of the children along with who is earning what. Hopefully our forum users can shed some light.
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#3 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 4:57:50 PM(UTC)
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I can't help much I'm afraid- my son is six and his dad has been giving me R1000 a month for two years now.
I am going to be taking it to court soon though so if I learn anything more about what is legally expected I'll let you know!
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#4 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:11:12 PM(UTC)
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Unfortunately a maintenance of zero is all too common, and in that respect R2300 is probably better than most but somewhat short of being fair.

Sit down and figure out what it's costing you to provide your child with an acceptable basic lifestyle (medical costs/medical aid, clothing, school/aftercare, groceries etc) and divide by two to get a starting point. R2300 seems a bit low (but better than nothing) on that basis - and it will get worse when your child starts going to school, then high school and hopefully higher education.



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#5 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:13:56 PM(UTC)
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Considering that you're earning more than your ex I'd say you're doing extremely well.
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#6 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:15:15 PM(UTC)
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If that is your only child "I hope you are not planning any family soon" then that is more than enough. I think 19% of your net income on one child is very reasonable, although I think R1500 would make more financial sense in your situation. If you decide to have 2 more children then that means you'll have R5,100 to live on (that is nothing when you'll be paying for a home, car, insurances, food, savings, investments, house rates, etc.)
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#7 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:16:04 PM(UTC)
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Maintenance is supposed to be 50/50. So if he/she's paying R2500pm, you should also be contributing R2500pm.
How this will be determined by a court of law is to take all the expenditures and break them down into 2 or
whatever the relation. School fees, aftercare, clothes, medical and the like will be divided by 2.
Other things such as rent, groceries, electricity will be divided by the number of occupents and the payees
responsibility will be half of that.
To make it clearer, if you and your baby are renting a R5 000pm flat with 3 other persons (5 in total),
the R5 000 will be divided by 5 (=R1 000 per person), so the payees responsibility will be R500 (R1000 / 2).
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#8 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:20:55 PM(UTC)
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I would say, rather look at what the expenses are and try and come to an amicable agreement based on that. No person, not you or him/her, should be out-done, but rather what is "needed" for the good on the child.
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#9 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:34:02 PM(UTC)
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I usually hear guys paying +20% of their net income on child maintenance. Rule#1: Never pay more than 20% of you net income on maintenance, I don't care if you have 6 children. If you have more than 2 then they should all share on that 20%.

Budget Rule:
- 20 % Child Maintenance
- 40 % Paying your monthly expenses
- 30 % Savings/Investment/Insurances
- 10 % Family Entertainment and Annual Expedition.
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#10 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:41:13 PM(UTC)
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sounds fair given your salary as this might cover creche and maybe medical aid costs, with the balance (food,entertaiment, rent) etc being paid by your ex. Wit the cost of living though, it wont go very far. Kids are expensive. R2300 is what we pay our full time helper, as an example. My ex was paying R3000pm plus private school fees.
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#11 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:44:18 PM(UTC)
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Hi,I think you are getting too much money.Do you want to tell me that the monthly cost of your child is R4 600.00 ? How did you get it right to trick your ex who is earning so little after tax? I pay R450.00 for my 11 year old.
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#13 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:45:45 PM(UTC)
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If I read right, you mean your child is 4 years old? Yes, that is fair... you are lucky...
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#14 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:49:33 PM(UTC)
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That is unreasonably high...does a 4yr old really need that much. Remember, it 50/50 which means you're also contributing just as much? I doubt...I am sure your paying bills with that money.
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#16 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 6:00:31 PM(UTC)
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I think she ment for a 4 year old, not for 4 years the same amount.
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#17 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 6:22:24 PM(UTC)
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50/50 is fair. But be fair, and be thankful if you get any money. Pray
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#15 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 6:23:59 PM(UTC)
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Guest wrote:
That is unreasonably high...does a 4yr old really need that much. Remember, it 50/50 which means you're also contributing just as much? I doubt...I am sure your paying bills with that money.
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#18 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 6:24:52 PM(UTC)
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Its sickening fact that when fathers leave their kids with ex-wives, the long knives come out, and the hatred he has for her is enacted on the children by refusing to pay, or paying too little maintenance to create a harder life for her.

I am a stepfather to 2 children, 11 and 9 years old - and thier father pays R1200 for BOTH of them per month, out of a salary that after tax is between R13-R16k per month. Luckily I am able to make sure that money is'nt an issue for my wife, and our family.

I do have sympathy for mothers who are divorced and fathers who try and screw the system to pay as little as possible.

According to Child Welfare/Child Advocates Office, the basic calculation is this:

Cost of Child * (Non-Custodial Parent Income / Combined Parent Income)

So, if a child costs R5600 per month, and the child is living with the mother and the father earns R12000 after tax and the Mother R6000 per month, then the calculation is:

R5600 * (R12000/R18000) = R5600 * 0.66 = R3733.33 per month

This is because the father earns almost double what the mother earns, and thus contributes more to the childs costs on a pro-rata basis.

Most non-custodial parents will buy expensive cars and rent/buy larger houses to try and show that thier costs exceed their means to pay an adequate amount. This runs both ways and their are many fathers out there who are also under this kind of duress from resentful ex-wives.

The only ones who suffer in the end are the children.
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#20 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 6:39:50 PM(UTC)
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I think thats a bit high...I need R3000-00 a month excluding entertainment for the basic i.e. to survive, and im an adult....I assume your 4 yr old doesnt go to nightclubs and strip joints, then i think youre getting ripped off.Remember the maintanance u pay is according to what u can afford based on the size of your salary in relation to your child's mother's salary..Also take into consideration whos pays the medical aid and school fess,if youre paying it, you getting ripped off even more...I know i didnt answer your question but maaan oh maaaan,my advice to any man out there, make sure you catch your love in a bag, my wife's brother is also getting ripped off this way,as his also paying this amount a month ALSO for a four year old PLUS medical aid,which gets exhausted within the first few months of the year.....GOODLUCK
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#21 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 6:53:14 PM(UTC)
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So how much is your ex paying. My advise to you would be that you take over all the child expenses eg school fees,food and clothing. Your ex can cover the rent. I think that will be fair enough.
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#22 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 6:59:14 PM(UTC)
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I am quite amazed at what you guys get for maintenance. I have been divorced for thirteen years and my son is now 16 and guess what I get R 350 per month if I am lucky. It used to be R 450 but the courts reduced it due to the fact that my ex allegedly could not pay more. He earns way more than 12 000 per month.

As for going to court...Please!!!!!..... everytime there is another excuse. He pays no school fees whatsoever. If I ask for finacial assistance then I am the witch in the story.

I gave up long ago with our so called justice system.Brick wall
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