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#146 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2010 9:28:36 PM(UTC)
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Think
I dont pay anthing
She does not let me see my baby
so I dont pay coz she gets all the rights
and fun with baby


10minutes with my baby takes 5 weeks of negotiations


I do miss my baby stax very much
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#147 Posted : Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:56:02 PM(UTC)
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My son is 5. I earn R10 000 and his father R12 000 basic with a lot more for overtime. He gives R1600 per month for maintanance and no extras.
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#148 Posted : Friday, April 16, 2010 11:34:41 PM(UTC)
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Husband has 4 kids out of wedlock from 4 diff women.
R350 for an 18 yr old boy
R400 for a 14 yr old boy
R0 for another 14 year old boy
R350 for a 5 year old girl

He earns £ as he works in England
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#149 Posted : Saturday, May 01, 2010 4:31:43 PM(UTC)
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Child is 9 years old. Parent's were never married.

Dad Pays for:

100% School Fees
100% Aftercare Fees
100% Medical Aid
100% Extra Maths
100% Speech Therapist or whatever therapist is the whim of the month
80% Annual Birthday Party
80% School Clothes, Books, Stationery
R2 500.00 Cash to Mother

The total works out to about R6K a month.

Service Providers are paid directly as mother squanders cash and is irresponsible with money.
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#150 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 2:20:59 PM(UTC)
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Moist of you complain about maintenance I have a three and a half year old daughter with "special Needs" and only receives R700.00pm towards her all other costs I have to cover all he does is pulls his shouldes and says "sorry I dont have money"

Court case pending....
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#151 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:31:12 AM(UTC)
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Grow up! Have a look at the new Children's Act - don't just go to court and waste money you should rather spend on the child! Lawyers are blood-suckers who don't care about you or your child, just about how much money they can legally 'steal' from you.

In fact, if you DON'T have a look at the new act, and comply with it, you could end up facing imprisonment, if your ex- has even half a brain.
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#152 Posted : Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:20:38 PM(UTC)
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Geezzz, most of you seem very lucky, besides the one's who don't get anything... I get R650 per month per child (2 kids aged 6 & 10) Nothing extra. If there's medical bills, I have to littaraly suck it out of him. Best of all, my youngest is diagnosed with ADD, he had to go see a therapist, he's on natural medication for now and needs to attend extra classes - it cost me a shitload of money, but does he care? NO! AND I earn less than he does, though I am re-married again, he can't expect my husband to take financial care of HIS kids and yet my husband does everything for them!
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#153 Posted : Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:29:11 PM(UTC)
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But why do you have 'primary care' of the children? Are you REALLY the better parent? Is your new husband really happy with taking care of another man's children?

Why not share 'care', say a week with you, a week with him, and let him pay his costs when the kids are with him, and you pay yours when the kids are with you?

Or is it that you really want to have the children full-time, so that you have 'power' over your ex-husband?

If you sit down and discuss things in an adult manner, even go for mediation, don't you think things could be better? Or are you hell-bent on preserving your status quo?
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#154 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:20:41 AM(UTC)
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I have a 3yr old daughter. Daddy pays R1400 at the moment and that covers everything I need for her. I get medical aid through work, buy her clothes, pay everything else.

But we have never had any issues RE money. He pays promptly every month, I don't hassle him for anything extra, sometimes they(he has a girlfriend) buy her some clothes which they would send home to me, but now that she has started sleep overs they will probably keep some with them.

I clear 8000, Daddy is in business with another partner, have no idea what he earns, sure its not to bad, but once again, not gonna milk him dry, just want enough for us to have everything we need. If I really need help I know I can go talk to him, but that is why I also put a portion of his money into a personal savings account for any eventualities and a portion goes into my daughters personal savings acc that I set up for her when she was born.


Guess we are just one of the lucky ones.....
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#156 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:45:00 AM(UTC)
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I have a 5 year old - I get paid R1560 per month - have been trying to fight this in court but it is actually just a waist of time!

her school alone is R1600, that is without medical, food ect!

they do buy her an outfit or two twice a year (normally Bday's and Xmas) but other than that we can NO help!

She is going to Big school next year - so I have no idea how I'm going to do to get school clothes ect.....
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#155 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:39:10 PM(UTC)
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...not gonna milk him dry, just want enough for us to have everything we need. If I really need help I know I can go talk to him, but that is why I also put a portion of his money into a personal savings account for any eventualities and a portion goes into my daughters personal savings acc that I set up for her when she was born.


Please, please PLEASE won't you be my ex-wife? Angel Angel Angel Angel Angel Angel Angel Angel Angel Angel Angel Angel
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#157 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:32:30 PM(UTC)
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I know this thread is a year old but just needs to chip in here with a question. What is your oppinion on the following?

My wife divorced me a few years ago. I understand that one must pay child support and that it depends on the situation how much that amount will be. But my ex-wife is really rich. She buys new cars every 18 months and can go on holidays 4 times a year. I can't afford to take my son on a 2 week holiday. I still drive the same car and can only afford to rent a flat. Now I know its not her fault I don't have a better paying job. I also feel she deserves to be rich as she has studied many years for her degree. But my son is complaining now about where I stay, what car I drive and why don't I take him to the beach like his mom. I just feel why must I pay her child support. Yes everyone say you pay it for your child, not to her. But if I did not need to pay her I might have been able to make things better for my son when he visits me. I could have then maybe afford a holiday once a year etc.
So why must I pay her while she is allready so rich that she does not know what to do with her own money? My son said to me once she owns 4 houses. I can't even afford one... I feel this is unfair. I just want to do the best for him with my salary. Without helping her to get even richer still!
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#158 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:02:57 AM(UTC)
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Cornell, it's quite simple - the Children's Act and associated legislation makes provision for maintenance to be paid by the parents of a particular child, towards the upkeep of that child, on a pro-rata basis.

So if your ex-wife takes home, say, R10,000-00 per month, and you only take home R5,000-00, then you should be contributing 1/3 (33%, roughly) and she should be contributing 2/3 (66%, roughly) towards your child.

The law also provides that you must 'have sight' of the costs - you are entitled to see the actual bills that she claims are for the child's needs (note: needs, not 'wants' and definitely not luxuries), and you are entitled to examine same and satisfy yourself as to their authenticity, before you pay your share thereof.


Also, please note that there is no longer a 'maternal preference rule' - so any statements like "mother is the best parent" or "father HAS to pay maintenance" are throwbacks to the OLD law and are now invalid in the eyes of the current law, which has changed (do yourself a HUGE favour and read, understand, and memorise the contents of the new Children's Act - see here: Children's Act 2010 - courtesy of Section 35 website) - BOTH parents have EQUAL RIGHTS with regards to the child(ren), and EQUAL RESPONSIBILITIES!

In fact, the most important provisions of the new Children's Act are contained in Section 35(1) and 35(2) - get to know those particular sections better than your own phone number, and USE THEM!

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#159 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2011 5:16:42 AM(UTC)
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Hi Tom. Thank you for the link and pointing me in the right direction. I will make sure to read everything tommorrow. I think to know the law can only benefit me. I'm sure if I could go to a maintenance court I can have my monthly payments reduced. But I don't want to go at it that way. I would rather that she decides out of her own free will that I can stop payments, that can only benefit our son. The other reason is that I don't do it is because I don't want to make her mad. She might just let me see my son less than now. I get to see him more than only every second weekend. I don't want her to become nasty.
Her salary is in the region of R85 000.00 pm. That is before deductions. I think that is more than enough not to worry about the little tip I have to give her lol.

The only other thing that bothers me is that we had a verbal agreement before the laywers letters came. She told me its fine, I don't have to pay child support as she will be more than fine, with a attitude and all. I said thank you, I appreciate it, but she went against her own words at the end. I recently heard that a verbal agreement is legally accepted as a contract? Its a pity that my lawyer did not make me aware of that at the time.

Regards
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#160 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:10:06 AM(UTC)
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Cornell, as I noted above, please read section 35.1 VERY CAREFULLY - this section of the Act specifies that YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ACCESS TO YOUR CHILD, AND YOUR CHILD THE RIGHT TO ACCESS TO YOU, AND NOBODY MAY OBSTRUCT THAT ACCESS!

Under this section of the act, if your child's mother refuses you access, she is liable to a fine and/or a term of imprisonment.

In fact, under this section of the act, a mother has ALREADY been found guilty and fined R20,000-00. Mother fined R20,000-00 for breach of court order!


As for verbal agreements, yes, they are legal and binding, but as a famous statesman once said, they're not worth the paper they're written on. Unless you have independent witnesses who are prepared to go to the effort of swearing affidavits and attending court to enforce the terms of your agreement with the third party, you might as well forget about it.
When it comes to your child, remember 3 things:
1) Reduce EVERYTHING to writing.
2) Do NOT trust anybody.
3) Above all, make sure you know the Children's Act backwards - most lawyers and attorneys are STILL ignorant as to the contents thereof, probably because it's a lot of reading, but that is NO EXCUSE. Also, most family advocates and social workers wilfully ignore the provisions of the Act - unlawful, malicious, and petty in the extreme and to the detriment of the child(ren) - so the only way for you to beat these people at their own game is to KNOW the law and insist upon your - and your child's - rights under the Children's Act.

Remember, there is NO MATERNAL PREFERENCE RULE any longer.
BOTH PARENTS HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS AND DUTIES.

And the child's interests and rights must come first.

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